SW1 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I've been collecting GWS stuff for almost 2 decades and have ended up owning more than my fair share of models. My old Great Company was made up of a big mish mash of different metal SM's and totalled well over 450 infantry models never mind the tanks. I've had the army for a very long time and I've decided it's about time I get it sorted out with a uniform paint job that's reasonable. I'd previously pulled out enough vanilla SM's to do the Smurfs 5th Company and got as far as base coating them all. I've also got together all the bikes and found I've got a fairly large White Scars army ready to go. There's some other random couple of squads worth of BA's and other bits and bobs. The plan in my head is to get the my Great Company sorted 1st and then with what remains do a SM Crusade army with a big mix of different chapters represented which will give me a break from painting grey. I've stripped almost all of the SW models and I'm now at the point where I'm trying to decide ... What should I reasonably have in a full great company? I was thinking that a normal marine company is going to be covered by 1 FOC so a great company should have atleast 1 FOC if not 2 FOC. After rummaging I've worked out I have the bodies to do something like the following: 10 Grey Hunter Packs (100 GH's) - 4 plasma gun packs, 4 melta gun packs, 2 flamer packs 2 Blood Claw Packs (30 BC's) - both packs would have flamers 2 Skyclaw Packs (20 BC's) 2 Swiftclaw Packs (20 BC's) 5 Long Fang Packs (30 LF's) 5 Wolf Guard Packs (50 WG's) 2 Scout Packs (20 Sc's) Does that ratio of "70 Blood Claws/100 Grey Hunters/30 Long Fangs/50 Wolf Guard/20 Scouts" sound right? If you were going to do a full Great Company what ratio of BC/GH/LF/WG/Sc would you use? Is it too big to be classed as a Great Company? Model wise the different types of Blood Claws (standard/jump/bike) would utilise standard marine bodies raided from the none SW marines with added SW arms and pads. Except for the Scouts the rest of the army I would aim to use mainly old metal SW bodies with a smattering of plastic SW bodies (which I picked up mainly for the arms). The other option I can see myself doing is dropping the number of BC's and GH's to crank up the WG and run it as a Logan Wing. This would also mean I'd be including less none SW marine bodies as there would be less BC's and any drop in GH numbers would mean more WG can be included. Any thoughts on the direction I should go in? It's a big project and getting it right at the planning stage will help avoid messing up and duplicating work later on!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Honestly to me it seems like you have 2 great companies worth. We don't have hard numbers so not positive, but the coded says ragnars company is the second largest and he ha /almost/ 200, so you have a helluva big great company. Otherwise to me the ratios seem reasonable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/#findComment-3402772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I have trouble painting 10 models. Those numbers make me feel queasy :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/#findComment-3402799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirdfox Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Sounds like you've got a pretty large Great Company there. My Wolves currently number around 3/4ths of a standard Codex company and it took me quite a while to to get them to a tabletop standard. I bid you luck on this endeavor of yours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/#findComment-3402883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Does that ratio of "70 Blood Claws/100 Grey Hunters/30 Long Fangs/50 Wolf Guard/20 Scouts" sound right? If you were going to do a full Great Company what ratio of BC/GH/LF/WG/Sc would you use? Is it too big to be classed as a Great Company? To me, no. It sounds to me like you have 2-3 Great Companies there, and not enough Grey Hunters to everything else. IMO, add in 50 more Grey Hunters and you have yourself the right ratio, and enough for 3 GCs. Alternatively cut everyone except the Hunters and the Claws to 2/3rds (20 LF, 35 WG, 15 Scouts) and then go with 2 GCs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/#findComment-3402885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozeryk_Sleipnijr Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I suspect that some great companies could be really big. In my world the SW great companies can number up to 500 each. After 2 or 3 battles see how many are left over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/#findComment-3402889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Blade Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I think you are pretty close with what you have. We are Wolves we have GREAT Companies, IE our companies are biger then regular SM Companies. Each Co. is basically is basically an army on its own less Wolf Priests, Rune Priests & Dreadnaughts. I think our Co'.s should be more then a 100 marines. That being said, I think you have a few to many WG. Maybe say 25-35 WG. I might also drop a pack of LF & a pack of Hunters but other then that, I think your good. Good luck brother & hopefully you will grace us some pics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/#findComment-3402900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted June 28, 2013 Author Share Posted June 28, 2013 Cheers guys, I'm glad I cut it down from over 450 as that was well over the reasonable limit. But the 250ish mark is something I feel is about right IMO. I'm planning on trying to get as much painted up during the ETL as possible so you should see a good chunk painted up soon. If I wasn't quite as messed up with my back I'd have got through them a lot quicker. The WG excess numbers will probably be made up of a few daft unit's geared up to Apoc rather than normal battles. Currently gluing it all together and will get some pics up as unit's get built. :D I've just seen that there's a DA player Liberame who's just vowed almost 7k and already completed almost 2k so overall will be looking to do atleast 9k!!! I'd love to match him point for point but lets be realistic here, even though I have way more than enough models, there's not a cat in hells chance of me getting that much painted. Then again if I don't aim for a big points total then he'll push the DA's even further ahead. :( Must get my brushfoo sorted out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/#findComment-3402927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Sounds like one to me. None of those Codex limitations for us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/#findComment-3402930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Id say drop one of the 15 strong Blood Claws to a Grey Hunter pack- or two- and then yeah, youve got a big ol early years great company ready to go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277399-great-company-question-re/#findComment-3402957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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