Vesper Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 That's how I read it too. Sadly. I guess Furious Charge might be the best out of all those rules. Most of our stuff is likely to be Fearless, by the presence of the Chaos Lord, by the fact that there could be cult troops or thanks to Legionnaire Warband. Crusader is okay, and situational. Monster Hunter is situational. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277442-apocalypse-preorders-up/page/3/#findComment-3410380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 I agree, furious charge would probably be the most often used, but the rest could be situationally helpful. The fearless in particular could be worthwhile when playing against non-loyalist-marine enemies, where the legionnaire warband formation doesn't do anything for you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277442-apocalypse-preorders-up/page/3/#findComment-3410408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 The one for the Emperor's Children is sick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277442-apocalypse-preorders-up/page/3/#findComment-3410436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 EC is pretty sweet, particularly if you aren't spending the points on the banner already. Death Guard, while sad for its zero synergy with plague marines, is still pretty awesome for anything else. Word Bearers, as mentioned, is amazing. World Eaters isn't half bad, either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277442-apocalypse-preorders-up/page/3/#findComment-3410439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 And then you have the Night Lords. <_< Â Making leadership re-rolls wouldn't be so bad if there was actually a chance to change the outcome. But in retrospect when considering some of the ideas others have put forward as being "Night Lords fluffy", it could have been worse. Â To be honest, I'd rater we had gotten something similar to the Raven Guard and the Alpha Legion. Maybe Stealth and two other rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277442-apocalypse-preorders-up/page/3/#findComment-3410442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Agree NL is terrible, but it's APO, house rule it. As mentioned, my preferred house rule is 'cancel Fearless and ATSKNF for enemy units w/in 12" of warlord', in addition to what it currently does. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277442-apocalypse-preorders-up/page/3/#findComment-3410454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Agree NL is terrible, but it's APO, house rule it. As mentioned, my preferred house rule is 'cancel Fearless and ATSKNF for enemy units w/in 12" of warlord', in addition to what it currently does. Yeah. I really like that, but cancelling ATSKNF doesn't seem fluffy to me. I would see it as the Smurfs getting all jacked up seeing the face of their 10,000 year old foe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277442-apocalypse-preorders-up/page/3/#findComment-3410490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Yes, you can house rule it, or say, your warlord is legion inducted Zhufor style, so he can actually claim his heritage (say, Raven Guard inducted ) because is it not even fair compared to... Grunt- Hey mister Dark Apostle. DA- Sup bro? Grunt- Do you see this towering building? DA- Yes? Grunt- Well, actually is an Imperial Reaver Titan... we're dead I'm afraid. DA- Oh. DA- Erm... Hey you! Titan! Titan- WHAT? DA- I dare you to betray the Emprah! Titan- CHALLENGE ACCEPTED *Turbolaser hard party over the imperial lines* DA- Who's awesome, grunt? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277442-apocalypse-preorders-up/page/3/#findComment-3410505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 I would view both cancelling ATSKNF and taking control of a unit as warp-spawned hallucinations or temporary daemonic possession. Remember, we're in a setting where gods, daemons, and magic are all overtly real, playing the faction specifically aligned with and consumed by those forces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277442-apocalypse-preorders-up/page/3/#findComment-3410668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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