franzdietrich Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/LEGION_MKII_TACTICAL_SQUAD.html Is this considered 6 troops in the actual Horus Heresy game rules stated in Betrayal, or is this just one squad? I'm hoping it's 6 troops, because paying $240 + UK to US shipping for one squad is completely out of the question. Thanks in advance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It can six five-man squads, three ten-man squads, two fifteen-man squads, a twenty man squad and two five-man squads, a twenty and a ten, two ten and two five men, a ten and four five, and any other combination you can think of. The minimum is five and maximum is twenty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3408835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
franzdietrich Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 Not bad at all, I should pick one of them up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3408872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I want to add that in Heresy, a Tac Squad starts at 10 man. So you can have one 20 man and one 10 man or two 15 man. If you use them in 40k then you do have 6 short squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3408919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Oops. My mistake. I thought it could start out as a Five-man as well. Apologies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3408933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Doing a HH army with straight FW will cost a fortune but the model quality is in my experience well above GW. My advice is use GW minies too and slowly phase them out for FW stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3408966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 That is a good way to do it. You could have the body and main parts GW and just get the weapons kits, shoulder pads, and upgrades from FW.  So far I have 80 some-odd heresy models and I think I am around US$650. I still have another 20 models to go. All said I believe I priced the total at around $800-850 depending on options kits I buy.  The same model count in GW 40k is about US$500, ending at about $600.  Sizeable difference.  I also only buy FW stuff now. My little jab at GW for the crap they have pulled the past year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3408981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I was just going to save up and sometime after the Massacre release, buy an army-sized order. I'm expecting just over US$1000 just in infantry. Still thinking about what vehicles to get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3408992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
franzdietrich Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 When Mortarion releases, I'm going on a shopping spree for sure. I guess the prices are OK by themselves..but I dread the cost of the shipping, considering GW charges $9 for STANDARD.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3408993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Once you beat £250, shipping is free from FW. At least, that's what I heard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim AMM realgenius Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Yup, free shipping past 250 pounds and you get upgraded express shipping. I've ordered on the weekend before and had in down here in Texas by that Friday. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 So far $750 Aus for mine I'm planning just infantry wise 200 models then you still need weapon upgrades and packs. Just doing it 5 @ a time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I'll second the free shipping, I ordered about 300GBP on the July 2nd. The box got here today. England to Texas in 6 days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 :0 that's quicker than to aus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 If you want to save money only buy characters and infantry from FW, by tanks from GW (except for dreadnought, because who here doesnt want a contemptor?). Thats my plan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Oops. My mistake. I thought it could start out as a Five-man as well. Apologies. Â You can for veteran tactical squads, who are troops if Pride of the Legion is taken as a rite of battle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Oooo, good call. 15 man Tac squad and 2 or 3 vet squads. Nice ground force.  Add a second Tac or an Assault squad for minimum FoC.  One thing to remember is that this is 30k, don't fall into the rut of building a 40k list with 30k units. Large squad size should be the norm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 One thing to note with that infantry bulk thing is that you only get one character upgrade set, so you only get enough bits for 2 vox marines 2 vexillas and 2 crested helms. Not a massive issue but something to note. I'm going to make a big order soon including a fellglave and a storm eagle and I'm thinking of getting the mark IV infantry set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 So far $750 Aus for mine So that's like...what...20 GBP? Just kidding Jaspcat, you poor Aussies and your lovable accents. I would definitely recommend taking advantage of the free shipping. Buy the book, a tac squad package, and a few units of whatever you would like to sprinkle your force with Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Disregard...I can't read today.  I agree, hold off for large buys. Even look at doing group buys with friends to get that minimum amount. You will get them much faster.  At least get the book and the FoC minimum so you can throw down the pretty resin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Damn you Brits with your warhammer world & events that I can't go to and and and. Â Nah it's all good just means when I save up enough ima fly over and have a resin addicts version of an overdose. Â My lady doesn't like me making masses purchases and believe me I've argued about FW from dusk till dawn so it will be every fortnight order another model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 my heresy era forgeworld army is averaging out at £10 (GBP) per model at the moment - 10 PA tac squad, 5 man assault, 5 man cataphractii and 5 man tartaros. Not exactly a bargain, but the models are special i admit.  two gripes with forgeworld at the moment: 1. I called to order some cataphractii shoulder pads, as i've magnetised the arms to maximise weapons options, but the pads attach to the arms, so you need a pad for all the arm swap options, but apparently they only sell complete kits?! It worked out (ish), cos I found some pads on ebay - altho £10 for 6 pads seems a lot. 2. the tartaros models (received today) the shoulder pads are in two parts?! Talk about fiddly - can't really understand why they aren't one bit like on the cataphractii...  sigh. ok whinge over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 My method to cut costs is to buy the Red Scorpions upgrade pack for MK4 helmets/shoulder pads/torsos, and to make my own Mk5 armour with rivets. Doesn't look too bad, either, surprisngly. Works out about £1 more per MK7 tactical marine, so relatively cheap (for FW prices!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I've had two sets of tartaros pattern terminator armour arrive.... Both sets missing the left hand shoulder pads. But FW got straight on to it express posting the missing bits but in Australia express means within a month Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 You Australians need to invent Stargates or something and then market those things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277821-question-about-horus-heresy-miniatures/#findComment-3409551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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