minionboy Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Well, it looks like this post was victim of the corrupt data base, so lets try it again! So unless you're living under a rock, you might have noticed that Imperial Armour Apocalypse was just released today, and damn, it looks good! It includes updated rules for damn near everything (that isn't in the 40k Apoc book or in IA:Aeronautica)! Here's the Table of Contents: http://www.thediceabide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/contents-ia-apoc.jpg For 40k that means: Chaos Storm Eagle Chaos Spartan Assault Tank Chaos Relic Predator Chaos Contemptor Chaos Decimator Blight Drone Blood Slaughterer Plague Hulk I'm guessing the last 2-3 might be for Daemons only, but I'm really hoping they're allowed to be taken by Chaos Marines as well as Daemons (as the Blight Drones already can do). FW has been nice enough to give us little sneak peeks at some of these units. The Storm Eagle (and Thunderhawk) can be seen here: http://www.thediceabide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/FW_Apoc13-30.jpg The points are blurred out, but we can see that it's largely unchanged from IA:Aeronautica, but does have updated point costs for the vehicle upgrades. Doing a little more digging you can see the Chaos Spartan and Chaos Relic Predator in the FW video on youtube: http://www.thediceabide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/iaapoc_chaos-1.jpg That one is a little harder to read, but some important notes are that the Chaos Spartan can buy Armoured Ceramite and Frag Launchers, just like it's Loyalist counterpart as well as Dirge Casters... Gross! The Relic Predator has the options for Magna-melta Cannons, Flamestorm Cannons, Heavy Conversion Beamers, Twin-linked Lascannons and Plasma Destroyers. I can't tell what the costs for the upgrades are, but if they're reasonable, this can be quite fun for us Chaos Marine players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 So will these be useable in any 40k game or only apoc? Chaos spartan with armored ceramite and frag launchers....mhhmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The Storm Eagle, Spartan and Relic Predator all have the "40k approved" stamp on them. :) So no rules for our Dreadclaws in this book then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minionboy Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 The Relic Predators sound brutal. Now we have the option for Magna Meltas, Plasma Destroyers, Flamestorm Cannons and Heavy Conversion Beamers. If the price is right, 3 Predators with Plasma Destroyers and Heavy Bolters would be downright dirty. The Chaos Spartan also sounds like it can be potentially very useful, just hope it doesn't die to a meltagun. Unfortunately no Dreadclaw, but that's in Imperial Armour Aeronautica, so I didn't expect it to get updated honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wow, all the more reason to eventually get a Spartan. And cover it with spikes and Sirens :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The Chaos Spartan also sounds like it can be potentially very useful, just hope it doesn't die to a meltagun. That's what Armored Ceramite is for! Edit: Both the Thunderhawk and Stormeagle both have Armored Ceramite too! Their wargear options look pretty interesting too, Vengeance Launcher on the Stormeagle, TL lascannon options, reaper AC option, MM option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The Thunderhawk can buy for 50pts the Deamonic Transport rule. gets the deamon rule, and if a unit embarks on a 1 on a roll, 1D3 models gets eaten and restores has much HP's to the TH. The Chaos Stormeagle gets acces to the CSM vehicles upgrades, Dirgecaster, Warpflame Gargoyles and contrary of others Flyers, who have seen this rule errated from them, Deep Strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJL Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Alas, unless they have changed the rules, the plasma pred will probably blow itself up with overheats in a 6 turn game :( Its a shame because its so freaking cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minionboy Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Alas, unless they have changed the rules, the plasma pred will probably blow itself up with overheats in a 6 turn game Its a shame because its so freaking cool! Don't forget that there is only a 50% chance to take a glance when you overheat... so you'll only do 1.5 HP to yourself, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Alas, unless they have changed the rules, the plasma pred will probably blow itself up with overheats in a 6 turn game Its a shame because its so freaking cool! Well, there's a reason to field the Warpsmith :) Also, Chaos Spartan? Yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Question though, what the hell would we even put in a spartan with a capacity of 25? Cultists seem a waste for such an expensive transport. A huge blob of zerks with a bunch of characters? Or maxed out termie squad with characters? Hmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Question though, what the hell would we even put in a spartan with a capacity of 25? Cultists seem a waste for such an expensive transport. A huge blob of zerks with a bunch of characters? Or maxed out termie squad with characters? Hmm.... 20 Possessed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 If that seriously is the spartan transport capacity, I may have to order two. One for terminaters, and one for berzerkers and Khârn. At least forgeworld seems to have some common sense in what would sell to chaos players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It's what the old capacity was in the experimental rules. They may have changed it but I'm pretty sure it'll still be a relatively high number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 what was the storm eagle capacity again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 You can see it if you squint real close at the storm eagle page on the website, its 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Question though, what the hell would we even put in a spartan with a capacity of 25? Cultists seem a waste for such an expensive transport. A huge blob of zerks with a bunch of characters? Or maxed out termie squad with characters? Hmm.... First and Foremost, (assuming experimental rules make the final draft) it's a 5 hull point AV14 tank. With Quad Lasers (they will amaze ya). A fully chaosified and painted one will be a giant fist rolling up the battlefield, granting cover to stuff behind it, causing spontaneous target priority anxiety, etc. And then you get a capacity of 25 (!) which could be: A full squad of CSM plus an HQ (or two!) A full squad of Terminators plus an HQ (or two!) A full squad of Plague Marines plus an HQ (or two!) A full squad of Noise Marines plus an HQ (or two!) A full squad of Berzerkers plus an HQ (or two!) A full squad of Thousand Sons plus an HQ (or two!) 5 Chaos Spawn plus and HQ (or two!) (SURPRISE!!) etc. Also, with 5 hull points, one of those two HQ's could be a warpsmith, that keeps the Spartan rolling. Mostly though, since my guys are an Iron Warrior splinter group, I just want a big ole tank. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Oh yeah I realize Ammonius, I was just trying to strategize, which would be the best ones to go on there. A warpsmith is a good idea though, it'd make them a really big pain to take down. What's so crazy about Quad Lasers though? They're still lascannons aren't they? Which means can't move that fast and shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Why shoot with it until it has disgorged its cargo, snap shots aside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The quad lasers really just provide a threat if the Spartan is still functioning after it delivers its cargo. However, the line "I got a quad-laser, it will amaze ya." is in a song from Aqua Teen Hunger Force, and I think of that every time I see the Spartan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiron Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Storm Eagle looks nice but I just like Stormtalon. And if I don't get stormtalon I will be chaos player without flyers. Well, maybe Helltalon looks cool as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 1- Buy a Stormtalon 2- Add some skulls, spikes and chains. 3- Remove misile launcher. 4- Remove twin linked assault cannon and fit a twin/tri-linked heavy flamer. 5- ???? 6- Profit Congratz, you've got a cool loking Heldrake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 1- Buy a Stormtalon 2- Add some skulls, spikes and chains. 3- Remove misile launcher. 4- Remove twin linked assault cannon and fit a twin/tri-linked heavy flamer. 5- add Heldrake wings on the side engines. 6- Add a Battle OK Thundertusk skull in place of the cockpit 7- Profit Congratz, you've got a cool loking Heldrake! Fixed for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 You don't really fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Does anybody know what the deal is with the spined beast and giant spawn these days? Are the 40k legal, or just for apocalypse? Are they any good, either way? Ever since the Warriors of Chaos stuff came out, I've been kind of eying that slaughter brute / vortex beast kit, but haven't had anything to use them for. Seems like they could make a respectable spined beast or giant spawn respectively, but I'm not sure whether they'd be any good as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.