Jostal Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 In the codex it says you can take up to three sanguinary priests as an Elite. Do they have to be deployed together? Or can i deploy them in multiple locations? Also, they have the independant character special rule. Does that make them a Special character? Can they get "Look out, Sir"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Hi Jostal! I believe that a lot of this can be cleared up by a thorough read of the rulebook - I believe there are specific sections on: 'multiple models bought as the same force org slot' and 'characters' In short, you buy them together, but you deploy them separately from one another, whether that be on their own, with a unit. Alternatuvely you could deploy them together as a unit in their own right (as they have the independant character rule) but this would be of little tactical benefit. The 'independant character' special rule is a form of the character rule. All characters (normal and independant) benefit from the character rules in the rulebook (precision shots, look out sir, etc) Except independant characters have slightly different Look out sir rules, which I would encourage you to look up - it's also useful to know where in the rulebook various rules are. You can find them pretty easily using the index in the back. There are no longer 'special characters' per se. You can use any named character in any game, without needing your opponent's permission. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3415006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostal Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Thank you. So i could buy two Sang Priests, outfit one with terminator armor, stick him with a termi squad for deep strike and have my other one with my HQ that gets deployed at the beginning of the game? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3415013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomkapow Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Correct. And Characters have changed a lot. For instance, veteran sergeants are "characters". Librarians are "independent characters". The difference is huge and is extremely fortunate for us in term of Sanguinary Priests (including Corbulo). Due to GW rules and regulations in forums i'm not sure I can tell you rules outright, but if you go to your local GW or hobby store, I'm sure they have a book you can glance at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3415027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yes, once they have been purchased, they count as independent units for the rest of the game: One can deep strike, one can go in a storm raven, one can start on the table, or all 3 start on table. etc, Remember that as they are now individual units, they each award one kill point in the "purge the alien" mission. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3415088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Alternatuvely you could deploy them together as a unit in their own right (as they have the independant character rule) but this would be of little tactical benefit.Actually you can't. Independent characters cannot join units that consist of only one model. The sanguinary priest is such a unit. You could however add all two or three sanguinary priests to another unit like an assault squad. That would have even less tactical advantages though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3415351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Actually, I believe you can make a unit consisting solely of independent characters, but I don't have a rulebook with me right now - maybe someone can confirm/deny this? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3415589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Independent Characters can join other units. They cannot, however, join vehicle squadrons (see page 77) or units that always consist of a single model (such as most vehicles and Monstrous Creatures). They can join other Independent Characters, though, to form a powerful multicharacter unit! p39, Rulebook. A Sanguinary Priest is not a unit that always consists of a single model. Mephiston is. You can have a unit of Priests, but you can't attach a Priest to Mephiston. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3415918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 A Sanguinary Priest is not a unit that always consists of a single model. Mephiston is. You can have a unit of Priests, but you can't attach a Priest to Mephiston.No, up to three units of sanguinary priests can occupy a single FOC slot. That does not change the fact that they each are a separate unit: Unit Composition: 1 Sanguinary Priest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3415956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondow Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 NM, too early... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3416118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 A Sanguinary Priest is not a unit that always consists of a single model. Mephiston is. You can have a unit of Priests, but you can't attach a Priest to Mephiston.No, up to three units of sanguinary priests can occupy a single FOC slot. That does not change the fact that they each are a separate unit: >Unit Composition: 1 Sanguinary Priest That's a different topic alltogether now :) But bottom line, 3 priests are 3 ICs that occupy one FOC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3416149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 And a Captain is a separate model, as is a Chaplain or a librarian. they are however, all allowed to join another unit (by way of being an IC). They are also allowed to join another unit that just so happens to be another IC (so a chaplain and a Captain could/would join together then function as a single 2-model unit until they separate). What you cannot do is join an IC (such as a Captain) to a single model unit that is unable to be anything other than a single model unit (for example - Mephiston, who is a Character, but not an Independant Character). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3416227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Could you please quote the relevant rule, if you insist on that opinion. Independent characters cannot join units that consist of only one model: They cannot, however, join vehicle squadrons (see page 77) or units that always consist of a single model (such as most vehicles and Monstrous Creatures).Chaplains, Captains, Librarians and sanguinary priests all consist of only one model. Being an IC does not change that. It only allows them, contrary to Mephiston who is not an IC, to join other units that do not always consist of a single model. So All four could join the same unit that is not a vehicle squadron or always consisting of only one model, but if that unit was wiped out they would automatically disband, because they cannot join a unit that always consists of a single model. All four have the following unit composition: 1 Chaplain/Captain/Librarian/Sanguinary Priest (cf. C:BA p. 83 ff) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3416432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Could you please quote the relevant rule, if you insist on that opinion Res already did. Independent Characters can join other units. They cannot, however, join vehicle squadrons (see page 77) or units that always consist of a single model (such as most vehicles and Monstrous Creatures). They can join other Independent Characters, though, to form a powerful multicharacter unit! p39, Rulebook. A Sanguinary Priest is not a unit that always consists of a single model. Mephiston is. You can have a unit of Priests, but you can't attach a Priest to Mephiston. I'd go back and check your book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3416519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 woops, my bad. IIRC it was different in previous editions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278176-deploying-sanguinary-priests/#findComment-3416668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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