Vesper Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Hey guys, With the Black Legion supplement on its way, I found the motivation to build up a chosen squad. The basic idea is to create the elite of my warband (forget all competitive aspect of the game, it's not what I'm looking for). Those guys are the trusted ones of their lord, sent to accomplish the most dangerous and important missions. I want them to come from different Legions/chapters (purely for background). For example, the Aspirant Champion and two other guys are veterans from the Sons of Horus while another dude is from the Extinction Angels. I think I'll throw the mark of Slaanesh in there, fits the "elite" style pretty well. The squad has as heavily mutated/possessed guy, who'll act as the icon. So, what do you guys think, do you have any cool chapter / legion the few guys left could be coming from ? Aspirant champion - Power Sword (of Claw) - Sons of Horus Possessed guy - Icon of Excess - Blood Angel Chosen - Plasma Rifle - Night Lords Chosen - Plasma Rifle - TBD Chosen - Power Sword - Extinction Angels Chosen - Autocanon - Sons of Horus Chosen- Regular stuff (converted as an apothicary) - Sons of Horus Chosen- Regular stuff - Emperor's Children Chosen- Regular stuff - Knights of Blood Chosen - Regular stuff - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Please tell me you'll paint their helmets gold. My vote goes for atleast one Emperor's Children marine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 If you were going for a unit representing marines drawn from various legions, I'd avoid giving them a specific mark. A world eaters, thousand sons, or death guard guy with counts-as mark of slaanesh would just be too much for me. I don't see why the slaanesh mark and icon other than for gameplay effect, which you already said you didn't care about. I mean, I could see making peace with it if you were converting an apothecary to represent the old BL fluff of Abby keeping the apothecary corp around to preserve numbers. But that was from their early days, when the black legion was newly formed and still few in number, so if that's what you were going for, I'd keep to former sons of Horus fluff wise, as opposed to a single unit comprised of former members of various legions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 Don't know about their helmets, but I'll sure go for a paint scheme more elaborate than the basic one. Maybe by painting a skull on the helmet à la NL, maybe some gold here and there, yeah. Emperor's Children seems like a great idea. I like it a lot, thank you. EDIT, just for Mali : The mark of Slaanesh makes them feel elite in game (I don't care about optimisation, I'd like them to feel that way). The mark isn't a mark per se, it just represents the fact that they're good at their job. So it's not an issue if the squad includes followers of other gods than Slaanesh (even though I'm not tempted by WE or DG). About the apothicary, it's more about the guy who's able to patch them up, far behind enemy lines, and to preserve the gene-seed of those who die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I think VotLW is mandatory, it's a key fluff upgrade in my opinion. For the champion, I'd go with a single claw instead. Same price but better. Plus its a nod to Big A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 VoLW is obviously in. I use it on everything that can get it, that's also why I don't bother having to take it to play with the Black Legion supplement. You got a point on the claw. That makes perfect sense, even though I think a sword would look better. I'll think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Yea, VotLW is a given, isn't it? I'd like to see a member of the Crimson Slaughter catch Abaddon's eye and get fast tracked to your Chosen squad. ;) Great idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 I'm really not fond of the Crimson Slaughter. Their background feels so meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biaz Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 A member from the Bleak Brotherhood, I've always loved that scheme. Or the Knights of Blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Very nice idea, like a corrupted Deathwatch squad. I feel the very same way about MoS -my NL have it along with VoTLW, because feels to me how VoTLW should have been. Maybe you can add a Iron Warrior toting heavy weapon? Edit: In my mind the converted apothekarion would be better to represent IoE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I would have the Icon of Excess as a mad, very corrupted apothecary...one of Fabius' diciples... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 A member from the Bleak Brotherhood, I've always loved that scheme. Or the Knights of Blood. Knights of Blood will give me cool conversion possibilities and a devotee of Khorne. I buy it. Very nice idea, like a corrupted Deathwatch squad. I feel the very sameway about MoS -my NL have it along with VoTLW, because feels to me how VoTLW should have been. Maybe you can add a Iron Warrior toting heavy weapon? You got the global idea. Corrupted Deathwatch. Well, it's more about a Black Legion death squad, led by hatred and such, but the different origins of the Chosen will be great for conversions and background writing. On the IW, what weapon would you favour ? (I contemplate using those guys in kill-team, maybe). Edit: In my mind the converted apothekarion would be better to represent IoE. I would have the Icon of Excess as a mad, very corrupted apothecary...one of Fabius' diciples... Yeah that would also make sense. I don't know yet, I feel like the possessed guy fits that purpose pretty well, being a litteral incarnation of the will of the gods. Don't know yet, but there's food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 On the IW I envision them with classic AC or HB (and with Relentless in Kill Team games, is a very good thing) I'm more for the autocannon because of the higher S shots, but that's just me. Maybe the Possessed guy can be a dual lightning claw Word Bearer chosen? My main issue about the apothecary is that I don't like ultra-chaosy CSM besides Word Bearers, but again, that's just me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 AC seems good to me. I think I'll make the possessed guy come from a loyalist chapter (probably Blood Angels). His basic background is that he's been slowly but surely corrupted by all he's been through, and finaly ended up being possessed. He then had to flee his chapter, killing his squadmates in the process. Something along those lines. Alright guys, two doods left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I'm really not fond of the Crimson Slaughter. Their background feels so meh. What about one of the fallen (dark angels)? The background certainly fits, and the timing would be right. This guy could be a pretty old vet with some serious experience under his robe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I approve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 I've thought about it, and I will not make a fallen. The DA fluff feels ridiculous to me, as it seems like the Galaxy is full of fallen. They go to the restaurant, there's a fallen. They visit their grand parents, a fallen is around, etc. So no, it feels boring, IMO. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40kChrista Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Love the idea, I'm doing something similar but basing it off of Abaddon's Chosen from page 10 of the 3.5 dex so I only really have to work on 4 (I'm am incredibly slow painter). Have you thought about the other powers? Maybe one of the Cleaved, or perhaps one of the Scourged for the other plasma gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I've thought about it, and I will not make a fallen. The DA fluff feels ridiculous to me, as it seems like the Galaxy is full of fallen. They go to the restaurant, there's a fallen. They visit their grand parents, a fallen is around, etc. So no, it feels boring, IMO. Wow. Strongly disagree, but it's your thread. I'm outta ideas. Good luck on the rest of the squad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorrance Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 The thought of a DA marine trying to complete daily tasks but unable because the fallen are everywhere is amusing. Sons of Malice. I know he wouldn't get along with everyone else but I always found these guys cool. Plus quartered black and white done well is legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiron Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 What about some "Dark Angel"? Or an Alpha Legion guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroed Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Oh, I second the Alpha Legionnaire.. a sneaky, enigmatic type of guy that prides himself with knowing all sorts of stuff but that always seem to have some kind of second (and third, forth and fifth) agenda.. Bolter, BP & CCW there, maybe painted in black (legion) colors as a show of allegiance, but with a hydra incorporated somewhere.. (maybe a single shoulder guard left in purple-ish blue) ^^ Also, I'd like to weigh in on the IW guy.. maybe consider a melta instead? the squad seems to be a 'in-your-face' type of unit, so there might be a case made that the IW trooper chooses something to blow stuff up.. Another idea might be to include a renegade ultramarine, or (from a BL standpoint even sweeter) an Imperial Fist/Crimson Fist/Black Templar-character.. I personally have nothing but loathing for Dorn's thick-headed offsprings, so that would be a really nice twist on that one.. in the case of the templars, one might consider keeping their color scheme, but exchange the crusader-symbols with the eight-pointed star.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 Also, I'd like to weigh in on the IW guy.. maybe consider a meltainstead? the squad seems to be a 'in-your-face' type of unit, so there might be a case made that the IW trooper chooses something to blow stuff up.. Seems like a reasonable idea, yeah. I'll think about that. Renegade SM, I already have a Blood Angel, I don't want to crowd the squad with those guys. Alpha Legion and IW are great ideas too. On the other points, keep in mind that every guys will be in Black Legion colours, that's the point :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Well, I still thinking better the auto cannon than the melta, because sinergyzes (sp?) better with the plasma guys (same Str, same range, multiple shots). Melta is good but if you're in melta range, shot but not kill and can't assault (because of plasma), you're certainly dead. With better range, you can pound enemies from afar and move when things get's closer. Don't get me wrong, I like melta, but only mixed with flamers (because assaults) or with more melta. I also vote for the AL dude, they are great, and makes other paranoid about them :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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