gameos7 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I've already started reading through things like Ferrata's Guide to DIYing, the Octaguide 2.0, The Ultimate DIY Chapter Creation Thread by Rogue Trader and chapters like The Castigators. Are there any other good resources about how to create a DIY chapter that may be hard to find or hidden away? Also, after reeding what I mentioned above, I began toying around with ideas, mainly the idea of "What if there was a chapter were everyone was a Pariah or a Blank?" Any insight on this matter would be much appreciated! - Gameos7 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 The main issues are a) Pariahs are incredibly rare. I mean psykers in general are probably 1 in thousands (or even millions), blanks are probably 1 in billions. Where are you going to get them? Unless you're creating them in some kind of mad AdMech cloning program, I guess. but that raises the b ) Why? How does it make them so much better at what a Chapter is meant to do? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3418181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Same critisism which at one moment douses the interest can fuel it later; if he perseveres he has plenty of fluff options, the more valid ones which come to mind are; Elite forces of the Black Ships Ordo Malleus branch (daemonic possession followed by specific banishment which tears out the aspirant's soul) Chapter who pissed of one of the denizens of the warp so much that the worlds under their protection are no longer "persons". Living next to Null Pylons has unforseen consequences! In short, "persevere. adapt. survive." gameos7! Edit: Forgeworld nextdoor pisses out nullcollars like a tomorrow with no astronomican. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3418351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There is a single all-psyker Chapter in all of 40k, and it required a lot more work than any other Chapter to create. Nulls are many magnitudes of rarity above psykers. An all-null Chapter sounds like an utter impossibility. My advice, if nulls are truly wanted, would be to take Kais Klip's advice but make the instances of such an incredible rarity. Like a battle-brother of the fourth company who gets special attention from the Chapter because he's the only one at the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3418370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I've already started reading through things like Ferrata's Guide to DIYing, the Octaguide 2.0, The Ultimate DIY Chapter Creation Thread by Rogue Trader and chapters like The Castigators. Are there any other good resources about how to create a DIY chapter that may be hard to find or hidden away? Not that I know of. Octavulg's Marines Tenebric are still in the developmental stages and are a fine example of a Chapter that's still pretty much on the drawing-board. Also the Astral Reavers 2.0 thread, in fact. And they both also serve as neat illustrations of how different people can take different approaches to Chapter creation. Also, after reeding what I mentioned above, I began toying around with ideas, mainly the idea of "What if there was a chapter were everyone was a Pariah or a Blank?" Any insight on this matter would be much appreciated! - Gameos7 As a veteran Liberite, let me add something here. When it comes to writing up Chapters: Personality > Specialness. By which I mean there is nothing especially interesting about a Chapter full of blanks. What is interesting is the effect that being blanks has on the Chapter's psyche and personality, and how those effects change the way they view themselves or each other or the galaxy around them. And to be fair you could easily write a Chapter with that personality without having the blanks, which would stop anyone who likes their blanks rare being turned off by the Chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3418392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Ace is completely correct. That said, just have them be Cursed Founding. A chapter of blanks would be a reasonable thing to try to create, the Cursed Founding would be the time for it to happen. It'll come with horrific mutations, a faltering gene-seed, and a general sense of misfortune, but hey... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3418475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameos7 Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 I've already started reading through things like Ferrata's Guide to DIYing, the Octaguide 2.0, The Ultimate DIY Chapter Creation Thread by Rogue Trader and chapters like The Castigators. Are there any other good resources about how to create a DIY chapter that may be hard to find or hidden away? Not that I know of. Octavulg's Marines Tenebric are still in the developmental stages and are a fine example of a Chapter that's still pretty much on the drawing-board. Also the Astral Reavers 2.0 thread, in fact. And they both also serve as neat illustrations of how different people can take different approaches to Chapter creation. >Also, after reeding what I mentioned above, I began toying around with ideas, mainly the idea of "What if there was a chapter were everyone was a Pariah or a Blank?" Any insight on this matter would be much appreciated! - Gameos7 As a veteran Liberite, let me add something here. When it comes to writing up Chapters: Personality > Specialness. By which I mean there is nothing especially interesting about a Chapter full of blanks. What is interesting is the effect that being blanks has on the Chapter's psyche and personality, and how those effects change the way they view themselves or each other or the galaxy around them. And to be fair you could easily write a Chapter with that personality without having the blanks, which would stop anyone who likes their blanks rare being turned off by the Chapter. Oh no, I wasn't going to base the entire chapter off that idea, I just thought it might be an interesting starting point. Hell, I jokingly said to myself "How about I name 'em the Brothers of Silence? Lololol.", but that now seems like that could happen. Personality wise, they would probably treat psykers in the same way that they treat Chaos, Necrons, Tyranids, etc. Im thinking that they'll be fleet based, cause being near 500-1000 soulless would make you more than a bit uncomfortable. On that note, that means there probably loners since they have no communications through Librarians, and if they have no Librarians, or psykers in general, who the hell is gonna keep track of the chapters history and knowledge? But then I have to think about what the chapter's moral is like... But i'll do that later, right now I need to go. C ya later. - Gameos7 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3418572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Members of the Exorcists Chapter cannot be "detected" by Psykers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3418712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameos7 Posted August 12, 2013 Author Share Posted August 12, 2013 Members of the Exorcists Chapter cannot be "detected" by Psykers. On the basis that their souls are incorruptible and pure, they are effectively invisible to most warp daemons as their souls do not register for the leak of the mortal corruption. Only extremely powerful daemons are able to spot them.[3] - Lexicanum Its the closest i've seen besides some individual SM's being Pariahs or Blanks themselves, but I'm trying to come up with a way that everybody in the chapter is soulless, or at least have that as a starting point for a similar idea, or even a completely different idea, who knows? - Gameos7 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3419086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Musketeer12 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 How does the non psychic crew on a black ship work? Because maybe if they are born that way you could explain that the chapter is designed to hunt down rogue pyskers and execute/remove them? Or maybe their Gene-seed developed a mutation that changes their appearance to pyskers? Musket Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3419277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 By your statements, it appears you're familiar with the Sisters of Silence. It may be rare and nearly impossible to put together a large force of Nulls, but we do have at least one example of just that ... so it's no where near impossible as people think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3419381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I've already started reading through things like Ferrata's Guide to DIYing, the Octaguide 2.0, The Ultimate DIY Chapter Creation Thread by Rogue Trader and chapters like The Castigators. Are there any other good resources about how to create a DIY chapter that may be hard to find or hidden away? Also, after reeding what I mentioned above, I began toying around with ideas, mainly the idea of "What if there was a chapter were everyone was a Pariah or a Blank?" Any insight on this matter would be much appreciated! - Gameos7 Well, the Persecutors are my cursed founding Chapter which is entirely made up of Psychic blanks, basically The AdMech messing with excoriators geneseed after re-discovering a population isolated by a warp storm which subsequently had a large proportion of psychic blanks. Ace is completely correct. That said, just have them be Cursed Founding. A chapter of blanks would be a reasonable thing to try to create, the Cursed Founding would be the time for it to happen. It'll come with horrific mutations, a faltering gene-seed, and a general sense of misfortune, but hey... Pretty much this - they had to wipe out the population of their homeworld, because of their close ties to the Inquisition, they lost a whole company just because of one Inquisitor's political machinations, they also lost close to two companies during a surprise Chaos Space Marine attack on their fortress monastery, being blanks means they cant have Librarians, oh and they beleive becoming blanks prevents them from living an afterlife at the Emperor's side due to sacrificing their "souls". Well, they are CURSED, after all.... If you want some more info, just search "Persecutors" in this forum - ignore pretty much all fluff except my response to Octavulg's comment on the latest thread - I'm currently completely updating the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278300-where-should-i-go-to-for-information/#findComment-3419834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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