zyl- Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Or, as per the hypothetical premise of this thread, cultists, chaos marines, and troop cult squads. I like Jeske's 6 chosen with three plasma in a rhino squad. Might have to try a couple of those. I'm sure he actually put a lot of thought into the numbers there. More so than I'd care to imagine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278327-so-if-bl-chosen-are-troops/page/2/#findComment-3422966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piousservant Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Just curious, but the discussion seems to have centred on Chosen as a shooty unit. With their in build "uber-grit" are they not a better alternative to Bezerker/MoK CSM as a close combat unit ("delivery" questions aside)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278327-so-if-bl-chosen-are-troops/page/2/#findComment-3426052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Well, for those who take MoK CSM with übergrit and VotLW, I guess Chosen would be a tiny bit better. Just a few points more, but with access to more special weapons, better LD on the basic grunts, more attacks after the assault, but loss of counter-charge. I guess that's the thing, very few people take CSM with MoK AND übergrit AND VotLW, because it is obviously just too much piled onto basic dudes. Chosen are that unit in a ready package, with a slight point increase (just to make them less appealing I guess?). However, what they do give us is a unit outside of PM who don't lose anything from being a retinue for a HQ whilst still fitting in a transport. 9 Chosen can still have as many special weapons as 10, whilst 9 CSM can only take 1 instead of 2 (which is a huge difference). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278327-so-if-bl-chosen-are-troops/page/2/#findComment-3426080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz431 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Something that you all may be missing, is that with Chosen, you can take 5 1/2 plasmas by adding a 6th man. The half due to the champion taking a combi. Pointed to nurgle as I've described 223 with the vets rule. Why take power weapons when I can cause wounds against troops on a 2+ in shooting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278327-so-if-bl-chosen-are-troops/page/2/#findComment-3427784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 too many points, GK SS points does not make a good basse to stick more points on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278327-so-if-bl-chosen-are-troops/page/2/#findComment-3427794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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