ShottyScotty Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Im looking for a brand of spray on primer that is rated for use on GW plastic crack and in colour more than just black or white.I've heard horror stories about spray paints melting models, and thats why I am asking about the rated for safe use.I am starting to paint Black Templars. I already have Black Primer, but I am looking for white, red and an off black (or very dark grey). The "light black" seems nicer on models because I see it as less harsh and I can get better highlights. I do not have access to a compressor for those who airbrush, and if people have cheap suggestions that work, that'd be perfect! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Krylon has colored spray paints that come off in a matte finish. The matte sprays they have are pretty limited to being "camouflage" colors though so tan (which looks like bone), dark and light greens, browns, beiges, grays, and blacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p34ce Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Isn't this basically what Army Painter is? Army Painter Colour Primers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Ya, Army Painter. Make it so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 It really depends where you live in the world. Brits can pop into their local Halfords, Yanks into Walmart etc for spray paints. Be aware that if you choose Army Painter sprays then the regular paint pots in the same colour won't match for touch ups. I sprayed Dragon Red, and then used it from the bottle to touch up. However, the red came out a very different shade! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFisty Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I have used the Rustoleum brand for several years now and I am very happy with the results. It is a much better price than the GW primer and it comes in a variety of colors. I even use the basic white or black paint as a base coat with the same satisfaction of results as the primers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 It really depends where you live in the world. Brits can pop into their local Halfords, Yanks into Walmart etc for spray paints. Be aware that if you choose Army Painter sprays then the regular paint pots in the same colour won't match for touch ups. I sprayed Dragon Red, and then used it from the bottle to touch up. However, the red came out a very different shade! After having gone through three cans on my Blood Angels, I can honestly say this never happened to me. Pure Red in the can = Pure Red (and GW Blood Red/Evil Sunz Scarlet) in the bottle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShottyScotty Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 So far, I like Army Painter, but they don't have a dark enough gray for me. Uniform Grey is still too light for what I need. Does Krylon have a darker shade? I can't research it now, shift is about to start Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShottyScotty Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Also for rustolium and krylon, do they have a specific type they sell or is anything good? Anything I should look for? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Depending on where you are, you might not be able to get Krylon. I could never find it when I lived in the UK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShottyScotty Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 I'm in Canada, so I don't know if that's a problem. Pretty sure I've seen both. But any Krylon will work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 The only krylon I have ever had a problem with is the Kyrlon white, all the others have worked fine for me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShottyScotty Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 What would you suggest for white? Army painter? Or got another secret? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratan Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Well, a dark grey is going to be haard to find anywhere if Uniform Grey is to light for you. IF you are using it darker highlights, then there is an alternative of sorts. Prime in solid black, then hit it with a very light spray of White or Grey to lighten the more raised areas of the model. I've done this trick a few times and it works better IMHO that just solid black or grey. It takes a bit of practice to get just right, but its a good effect, especially if you cant find the right color you are looking for. As far as the Army Painter Paints go. I use Army Painter almost exclusively now. I've used the majority of their Sprays and the matching bottle paints, and every single one I have used has matched perfectly together. My Chaos Marines are all done in Dragon Red, and the bottle matched perfectly to the Spray. If you were getting different results, then you should contact Army Painter about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 What would you suggest for white? Army painter? Or got another secret? For white I have a can of NOW SPRAY PAINT, not sure if they sell it in your area or not. It is the only white I have gotten to work. Just note that if you do use Krylon, but both their black (or a white if you have one that doesn't run and eat up colors) and the color you want. Spray a layer of the black first, as it makes better results than just spraying a color right on the plastic.Most people will swear by army painter, but I just refuse to spend that much on a can of primer that last just as long as cheaper alternatives. The only time I would suggest army painter is for brighter colors than you cannot find a cheaper alternative for, like reds and yellows, because lets face it, army painter is some of the best paint on the market for bases. 12 euro (that's like 14 USD) a can just makes me cringe. EDIT: The Kyrlon dark grey is extremely rare now, I think they may have stopped making it and only make their light grey now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I'm in Canada, so I don't know if that's a problem. Pretty sure I've seen both. But any Krylon will work? Yeah, you can get Krylon spray paints in Wal-Mart here. Well, you can in Ontario. Don't see why you wouldn't be able to elsewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I've heard very positive things about Hycote - has anyone used that in the UK? Looking at their white specifically. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3423992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Reaper has lite black and white primer also use Army painter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3424048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venerable Jazzman Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I use the Plasti-Kote White Primer (and Red Oxide on my Blood Angels), no problems at all so far on plastic, resin, metal and Finecast. Get them in B&Q/Homebase in the UK, probably any DIY store abroad. http://www.plasti-kote.co.uk/Product/pcode---4181/pccode---6751 ++ just seen they do a clear matt acrylic, might give it a try for varnishing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3426394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShottyScotty Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 For Krylon, Plasti-kote and all those, are you buying the primer sets, or are you buying anything? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3426412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 The primer sets are iffy depending on the color, I have never had success with them but a friend of mine has never had them do him wrong. It's 5 bucks worst that will happen is you try it and have my luck Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3426720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venerable Jazzman Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I use the primers, no problems at all so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278450-spray-primers-and-alternatives/#findComment-3426915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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