L30n1d4s Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 So, GKs are still one of the top armies out there, but I think we may have just gotten a serious potential shot in the arm with the upcoming SM codex: Devastator Centurions. One of the few GK weaknesses is long range anti-tank and anti-MEQ fire power. Well, imagine taking an allied detachment of: HQ -Tigurius TR -10 x Sniper Scouts with Tellion HS -6 x Centurions with Gravcannons/Amps -Aegis Line with Quadgun Scouts and Tellion man the Aegis Line/Quadgun, providing backfield scoring and fire support Tigurius gives Centurions Prescience and (hopefully, with re-rolls of powers) Forewarning and Perfect Timing. That makes the Centurions have 2+/4++ (Forewarning) T5 W2 each, plus put out a total of 30 Twin-Linked (prescience) Gravcannons shots that can be fired on the move and ignore cover (Perfect Timing). On average, that is (23) dead MEQs, (17) dead Tactical Terminators, (8-9) dead Assault Terminators, (15) unsaved wounds against a Wraithknight, or (17) unsaved wounds against a Riptide per turn of shooting, all with a range of 6" move + 24" shooting. Not bad at all for GK fire support, huh? ;) Also, for those interested in the fluff side, you could actually make the Scout Snipers + Tellion modeled as an Inquisitor and his band of Sniper Warrior Acoylets or Sniper Servitors. Tigurius and Centurions could be modeled as a unique GK Librarian (Tigurius counts as) leading a squad of special GK "Heavy Purgator" Squad equipped with Nemesis Dreadarmor (somewhere between Terminator Armor and a Dreadknight). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278511-centurion-allies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Pretty dirty. I like it!The thing is though, those grav-cannons only have 24" range. So, they just contribute to our problem of being a mid-field army, they don't help in the same way that a couple of PsyDreads or even a DK does (the former works great as anti-Flyer and transport, the latter can murder any non-Flyer provided it makes it into charge range). TBH we don't need to spend a lot of points to get anti-Terminator/Marine firepower into our lists. Coteaz unlocks plasma cannon servitor Troops, and you can field multiple squads provided you have Inquisitors to prevent 'Mind-Lock' and provide 'Prescience' (re-rolling 'Gets Hot' is fantastic, not to mention re-rolling scatter). Not as tough as Centurions, its true, but you can get three plasma servitors for the price of a single Centurion, so they're really cost-efficient. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278511-centurion-allies/#findComment-3426760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Aren't you better off using centurians with twin linked las cannons and missiles? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278511-centurion-allies/#findComment-3429108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Yeah I'd say so. They're about as much as a Predator apiece though. I have a feeling PsyDreads are probably still more cost-efficient. I'd have to try them out in a game though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278511-centurion-allies/#findComment-3429930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Worse case for upgrade points, 3 TL LC / ML Centurion cost the same as 2 GK Hellfire Dreads... Cost effective? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278511-centurion-allies/#findComment-3430084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Not what I'd compare them to, as no one on Earth takes Hellfire Dreads anymore. Compared to the PsyDread, I think Dev Centurions come out favourably. (shrug) Just a question of whether your meta kills AV12 or 2+ armour more. I'm gonna try out the Centurions for sure, I've been finding PsyDreads lackluster against Necron AV13. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278511-centurion-allies/#findComment-3431383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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