Phalanx Warder Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Considering how much I like the Imperial Fists, and that I am making my 30K army Imperial Fists, I want to read more on them in the heresy era or in the Grate Crusade. Is there anyone who could give me a list of HH novels that feature the Imperial Fists? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Horus Rising - Cameo of Dorn and Sigismund Crimson Fist - Extensively Dark King and the Lightning Tower - mostly about Dorn and His relationship with Curze Angel Exterminatus-mostly about one Fist Short story in the Imperial Truth - how they deal with the Custodes That's off the top of my head Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3427879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fission Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 You could look at the source of the Imperial Fists page on the Lexicanum to see which books speak of them. As I remember you have references to them, or just Dorn, in (not in the chronogical order) : Shadows of treachery, mechanicum (at the end) , Gates of Terra, Flight of the Eisenstein, the Lightning tower, Tales of the heresy (the one with the custodes and the one with Dorn an Qurze) , Outcast Dead (dorn) ... and others that I forget sorry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3427880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Also Dorn is in Nemesis. He just appears here and there during the series but nothing major. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3427885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I find it funny that Dorn makes his way into so many of the stories but his legion has been covered very little. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3427914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 I find it funny that Dorn makes his way into so many of the stories but his legion has been covered very little. Considering that the Fists were the big E Legion so to speak, though fleet based their home world is still listed as Terra. They have like you stated very little on them during Horus heresy. This may be because they haven’t wrote out the siege of Terra yet, but when they do I think it is going to be a story of Primarks and not really give the legion some more substance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3428002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 You could look at the source of the Imperial Fists page on the Lexicanum to see which books speak of them. As I remember you have references to them, or just Dorn, in (not in the chronogical order) : Shadows of treachery, mechanicum (at the end) , Gates of Terra, Flight of the Eisenstein, the Lightning tower, Tales of the heresy (the one with the custodes and the one with Dorn an Qurze) , Outcast Dead (dorn) ... and others that I forget sorry Lexicanum can get iffy because there is material they haven't put up yet in more than a few articles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3428012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fission Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Yes of course Kol, but its a good start when you are looking for references. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3428114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying "Viewer Beware" is all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3428137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I'm disappointed as I've mentioned elsewhere, it's to far into the series now for a good pre-heresy era book focused on the Imperial Fists, they've had to resort to just bit appearences here and then despite the fact they "lead" the opposition to Horus. Horus had three books worth to build up some back story for the evil side of the heresy, the good side however has had little of that.I think that's why some people think the heresy is going to easy on the loyalists despite the loses, it's not because they've gone easy on them it's because there's not been enough written on them for us to give a damn about the loyalists losses. Vulkan Lives kind of addressed this a bit for the Salamanders, and Deliverance Lost etc tried with the Raven Guard, but it would of be nice if this was done prior to the events rather than systematically going back to try and make us feel sorry for them. The writing for the loyalists have got a bit better but they just seem out of sequence compared to the traitors, we already have daemon primarchs now and it still feels to me that Rogal Dorn hasn't got off his ass and done anything.Perhaps the Unremembered Empire will be the turning point for the loyalists but I still would of liked to of got a good feeling behind the loyalists legions so I feel their losses more acutely, rather than when we first see loyalist Primarchs we get Ferrus being made to look like an idiot three times by Fulgrim, and Corax and Vulkan barely uttering a word before the next we see their legions being chopped down within sight of the idiot Ferrus being beheaded. I think they've tried to make steps to address Ferrus by having him pop up in visions and other Primarchs talk about their relationship with him (Horus in his audio drama, Roboute Guilliman, Vulkan, etc) but it's to late the damage is done, Fulgrim ruined my perception of Ferrus.If they don't do something with Dorn then the damage will be done with him to, so far he appears to be an emo guy sitting behind a wall on Terra discussing morality and ethics about using assassins and whether listening to psykers is a good idea. Why should I care about Dorn's eventual discovery of the dead angel and dying Emperor when everytime we've seen him before he's been a stuck up prude with no ambition but to serve the Emperor by baby sitting him while he works. I want to see Dorn when he's alive and fresh and is battling during the crusade, I want to relate to him on a happier level rather than the dismal depressive view of him atm so when he is confronted with the forces arrayed against him and his loss of the Emperor I feel like I've been on an emotional journey, not just one big downward spiral of depressive despair that he's currently on.Sorry for a lot of writing but it's been building up inside me for a long time. I enjoyed the first three books and they set the stage for the rest of the series, I just feel the loyalists haven't received the same attention by writers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3428183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Everyone forgot flight of the Eisenstein, mr rival dorn is in the last quarter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3428387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Also the last remembrancer in Age of Darkness. Hes in the whole chapter with Garro but nothing is expounded upon his legion, merely how he acts and reacts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3428394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Thanks for all the great responses! I have to mirror WoT in his sentiment towards how the loyalists are been portrayed. Considering just how important the loyalist legions are the love is for sure going over to the traitors… let’s face it the ditzens of the warp have already done there damage after Iistavn, there are no moral issues to discuss they are already Marine killers. I think that the writers over at the BL are going down some rabbit holes on a lot of the little off shoot stories. I feel that a good start to the Horus heresy would have been a book on each of the legions prior to Horus rising during the Crusade would have made for a better start to the story. With the release of the Betrayal book from forge world I just hope it doesn’t push the writers over at the Black Library to rush books to print that are subpar or have missed opportunities to flesh out the character of the legions we love, should be interesting to see if they will remain somewhat mutually exclusive......... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3430175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Sigismund and the Imperial Fists feature a bit in Mechanicum aswell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278619-hh-novels-imperial-fists/#findComment-3433083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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