Daemon2027 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Hi guys quick question. If a Praetor has swapped his bolt pistol and chainsword for twin lightening claws, can he still take the additional bolter, combi weapon, or volkite charger? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 No, he only has two hands and the lightning claws take up both of them. You can only ever use two weapons, either two two handed weapons, or a two handed weapons and a one handed weapon, or two one handed weapons. Edit: For clarity Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 But you can take a chainsword, bolt pistol, and a bolter. That's three weapons. I realise holding would be an issue but could it not be built into the lightening claw fist? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 rules allow for it. Personally, I would convert it so it is a wrist mounted bolter/ combi/ what ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 rules allow for it. Personally, I would convert it so it is a wrist mounted bolter/ combi/ what ever. This. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Worse comes to worst, you can always just have a holstered weapon. That's what I was always planning to do with the CCW, BP, and Bolter. But the wrist-mount sounds more fun. To make things easier, maybe you can lop off Abby's arm! It'll be a while before he needs it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 That's what I was thinking. I might email FW for clarification before I start hacking up some lightening claws though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Not sure about 6th edition, but this guy was 5th edition legal, http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/gallery/image/86647-imag0525jpg/ I'll check my Betrayal when I get home. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 What I meant was you can only use two weapons, for example you can't fire a fire a pistol then charge into combat and receive the bonus of having two lightning claws. That's my interpretation of the rules at least. I've always been of the opinion however that using a range weapon when you have two lightning claws is iffy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Well, maybe that specific part of the conversation can be brought up in the Rules section? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 But in world of wrist mounted weapons would it not be easier to fire in combat. Can you use a bolter or combi weapon in close combat? I mean it should be possible to shoot at a target when not in combat, then bring up the lightening claws to go all Wolverine on someone once engaged in combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Okay, so a Praetor can take lightning claws and a bolter/combi-/volkite. The debate is now that he can actually use it. I'm keeping up right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Errm I guess so. Little confused myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I can't see anything to suggest you have to a weapon you shoot in the shooting phase in an assault (e.g. Shooting a pistol and then using a specialist weapon). So no reason why you couldn't fire a wrist mounted Combi-flamer and then charge in with lightning claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I can't see anything to suggest you have to a weapon you shoot in the shooting phase in an assault (e.g. Shooting a pistol and then using a specialist weapon). So no reason why you couldn't fire a wrist mounted Combi-flamer and then charge in with lightning claws. This. I have no problem imagining anyone firing their normal ranged weapon then mag locking it and drawing a pistol for close combat, so why not a wrist mounted combi weapon be fired then use the claws in combat? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Where in the *6th ed* rules does it say you can't carry more than 2 weapons? It used to (IIRC) back in 5th (or was it 4th?) but there's no such a rule in place anymore; otherwise marines equipped with Bolter, BP and CCW would be illegal... A Praetor can take an additional Bolter/Combi/Charger and then swap his BP and CCW for a pair of lightning claws (or for a LC and PF, or whatever else you want...). Go ahead, just make sure you model it appropriately ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Remember that if you do take that bolter or volkite charger, you are still under the same restrictions for shooting and charging. My recommendation would be to take combi-flamer from a rules standpoint. BUT: I am assuming that your praetor will be jump packing in with twin lightning claws. If so, I would not worry about it as much as I would only be shooting at targets I was approaching outside my assault range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Volkite charger is assault weapon. I wonder if it would look reasonable to mount two Volkite serpentas on the lightning claws to simulate (visually) the Volkite charger (two shots). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 oh... well I stand corrected then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I'm almost always near my Betrayal at the moment as I'm planning my Legion. But Combi-flamer is a good option I think. Bolter for range and flame the buggers before charging. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Just to clarify, assault weapon means what again? My rule book is with the rest of my books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 You can change after firing it (only charge at the unit you shot at). So if you have lightning claw mounted Volkite Charger you can fire the two shots and then charge the unit. I really like that idea. Different for Terminators due to Relentless/slow and purposeful Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Thanks for your help guys. Yeah I've got a jump pack twin lightening claws guy, and I thought the extra range attack may be an added bonus. He's obviously a close combat sort of guy, and he will be backed up with a command squad, carrying combat shields and an assortment of power weapons (or maybe the sabres?), and fists. Was going to give him a combi flamer but would the volkite be a better choice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Depends. Bolter will give you a decent-ish range when not getting into combat. The Combi weapons gives some flexibility. The Volkite charger gives two shots before combat and the range is a bit bigger than charge range (and has the deflagrate rule). I just think the idea of modelling two Serpenta (when released) on a pair of lightning claws to represent the two shots from a charger is freaking awesome. Add in a jump pack for some more cool imagery. FYI I rarely play warhammer and never played a 30k game (yet) so don't take my advice on it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 I never really play buts its nice to have the option. The volkite does sound cool and has a more 30k image. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278630-praetor-with-lightening-claws/#findComment-3428422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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