skawolf Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I have always held the opinion that the STORM RAVEN is asking to be a spacewolf vehicle due to name alone. In the Ragnar series they take thunderhawks everywhere. So I have always seen them as not opposed to using flyers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3434799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozeryk_Sleipnijr Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Just give us the Thunderhawk straight up, even if its expensive in points, I love the model and it fits the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3435289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 we have access to the thunderhawk already... as do we have acces to the caestus assault ram and the storm eagle.... to make the thunderhawk legal in non apocalypse games would just break the whole game.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3435336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denison512 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I can imagine them giving us something like a thunder hawk, as in what its used for. That to me feels right as a flyer for wolves rather than some fighter jet or such Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3437553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Blade Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Tend to agree with Skawolf. Probably get access to the Storm Raven. It's the same idea as the Land Raider Crusader way back when it first came out. Only 2 or 3 Chapters had access to it & then slowly widened to include all chapters. Unless of course they come out with a brand new flyer available to all chapters. Possible but I don't think likely. But who knows. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3437869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The Edwards can keep the Storm Turkey. We have access to the far-superior Storm Eagle. I would not argue with a Stormtalon piloted by a Blood Claw, but quite frankly I'm OK with only occasionally taking one in an Allied slot because my Guard allies give me access to the Vulture. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3437878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail187 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 i really do not understand why so many of our brothers want flyers... am i missing something here? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3437879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I want flyers so that I can try playing with flyers. Atm I have 1 army, and thats wolves, but I have started collecting some guard allies to get me access to a flyer or 2 simply to try it out. I don't want to miss out on all the flyer fun that almost everyone else is having. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3437996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail187 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I got to admit it is fun playing with flyers, but from an army point of view sw manage with out one dont you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The reason I want the Stormraven or something equivalent is because where I play they do not allow FW outside of friendly pick up games. So no Caestus, Eagle, etc etc for me. I need something codex legal. Guess I'll just have to finish my Vendetta for now.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail187 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 i see alot of brothers using caestus assault ram. I have been looking into the possibility of getting one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Yes we can manage without one, but I would be willing to bet money we get one with the new Dex. After all, what other new kit is gw gunna try to make us buy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Moonwolf Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Caestus Ram is very nice for ground support. It has no dogfighting capability what-so-ever, but a 13 AV flyer with ceramite and a large melta blast gives opponents a lot to worry about. I find it nice for a Logan wing army delivery system. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Flyers are the best way to counter flyers. Also, ML LF's with Flakk Missiles are just going to be even bigger targets, and ML's are hard enough to come by. I'd love to see a full plastic kit Storm Eagle or just giving us a Storm Talon and the Storm Eagle in Codex: Space Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 If we got Storm Eagle in our codex I'd go sell a kidney tonight to fund it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
logun Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 If we got Storm Eagle in our codex I'd go sell a kidney tonight to fund it. some drastic measures there mate, i'm sure someone elses kidney would suffice :P i wouldn't mind some space wolves varient flyer, would really like something with troop carrying capability more. these new AA tanks may be a waste of points if the opponent doesn't bring some flyers. so my quad gun will have to do if we don't get flyers of our own. hell turkeys are the only real scary one i really worry about anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail187 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 If we got Storm Eagle in our codex I'd go sell a kidney tonight to fund it. these new AA tanks may be a waste of points if the opponent doesn't bring some flyers. so my quad gun will have to do if we don't get flyers of our own. hell turkeys are the only real scary one i really worry about anyway. I agree those AA tanks waste of money and points! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Space Wolves are often tinkering with things and are very practical. I'm just going to say this... Larger Land Speeder Storms for power armoured troops. It's unique, isn't going to be overpowered if it's a modest sized capacity (8?), and will bring assault back to the game and SW finally. Oh and another Skimmer so my Stalkers can still be useful! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3438991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I'd be happy just to see a storm for wolf scouts, honestly. Wolf scout bikes would open up fantastic conversion possibilities, too. As for flyers, I'd rather see a new wolf dex add reliable AA than another variety of astartes flying box, but that's just me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3439066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
totolandy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Hello fellow brothers. To be honest, I think flyers should have been authorized for Apoc games only. I don't want to field flyers particularly. So I would prefer to have reliable AA that can be used against ground troops instead to have multiple flyers choices. And I wonder if GW could give us an AA more Wolfy than the Aegis line. For the near released SM tanks, wait to get their official rules before throwing them to the dogs. ;) By the way a troops carrier like the Storm Raven could be a nice addition to our codex. P.S. (I'm french sorry if my english is not perfect ;) ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3439254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 If we got Storm Eagle in our codex I'd go sell a kidney tonight to fund it. some drastic measures there mate, i'm sure someone elses kidney would suffice I never said it was my kidney! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3439556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viddar Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 i really do not understand why so many of our brothers want flyers... am i missing something here? I think it has more to do with most of us looking for an answer for Flyers. IMO flyers have the least drawbacks of any anti-air option. Aegis Lines are the most effective non-flyer choice, but they're static. The new AA tanks really suffer from the lack of interceptor, making them a poor choice in an all comers list (though I think people are underrating them a bit) Flyers are the best way to counter flyers. Also, ML LF's with Flakk Missiles are just going to be even bigger targets, and ML's are hard enough to come by. I'd love to see a full plastic kit Storm Eagle or just giving us a Storm Talon and the Storm Eagle in Codex: Space Wolves. I doubt that the storm eagle will switch over to codex. Its been awhile since GW took a forge world unit. I'm hoping for one that looks like the DA flyer (its a sweet model). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3439658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 i really do not understand why so many of our brothers want flyers... am i missing something here?For me, it is all about theme. Space Marines should have had flyer support craft 25 years ago (well they did, but it was made out of an expended deoderant container), when GW/Citadel started making making the models. They didn't have the ability to pull it off convincingly so instead we got "boxes" (i.e. the Rogue Trader era Rhino and Land Raider) instead. It has taken them over two decades to finally introduce air-and-space capable transports and support vehicles to an organization called "SPACE MARINES", that travel the Sea of Stars in space-based fleets to protect humanity throughout the galaxy. In the fluff, and on the tabletop, we've had Land Speeders and Thunderhawk Gunships and Transporters for ages (the latter in Apocalypse games, at least), but only relatively recently has the company started filling in the rather large void, or capability gap, between the two. The introduction of the Raven and Talon for Studio products, and the Eagle and Caestus for Forge World are finally filling the void. What I'd like to see is more effort in this direction, like a cheap transport shuttle (on the order of 75 points) for those who want some flyer transports. A Raven is a nice transport gunship combination, but you can't afford to provide one for more than one or two squads/packs. Best, Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3439720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 from a pure transport standpoint, i do believe the arvus lighter is available to us, although i might have to check My main problem with all these new flyers is that,well, they are NEW! nowhere in our earlier fluff do we have any mention of them so why would we have them? (note i m' not saying that gamewise a flyer wouldn't be usefull/fun/whatever). My main problem is that suddently our beloved thunderhawk gets pushed aside by all these new models who suddently "have been around for ages". Which i find a bit of total nonsense! why would space wolf/marine specific stories, depicted from a space wolf/marine standpoint never mention such flyers? They should have been new STC's that mars finally cleared for production! not some ancient flyer we've had for thousand of years, used in almost every battle but somehow never got around to mentioning it.... heck, our iron wolf his brainless servitors have recieved more attention in previous books! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278643-rumored-release-for-sw/page/3/#findComment-3439745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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