Daemon2027 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The second one is closer to what thought, but the hand needs to remain straight as it looks a bit odd, which would then put the hammer in a weird position. Even if you could turn the hammer head i'm not sure it would look right. I think the arm angle makes positioning the hammer in a natural way difficult. I've just tried replicating the pose in real life and it doesn't feel natural. I think its because the legs are close together, so the extended arm makes it all off balanced. Sorry i have not been very helpfull.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3429550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 I've tried a lot of variations, none of them really fit or I'm not happy with them, I guess I'll brain storm more, perhaps something new will come out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3429644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The basis of the model is good. Im sure you will be able to make something awesome from it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3429658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Yeah it's just that arm is the problem, if I can't fgure it out I may end up just cutting it off as much as I can and replace it with something a little more normal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3429667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 So this is what I have to work with atm, I'm seriously considering cutting off that arm but I'm not sure what to replace it with yet. http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3407/6y0g.jpg http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9351/qat5.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3429841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 How about a culvits serpentine and remove the arches tech pistol and use that as a CC weapon arm? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3429851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If you are not going thunder hammer then how about power maul? Its smaller, might look better balanced. I know the TH is more Salamander fluffy but any blunt weapons look good on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If you cut off the arm remember the shoulder pad is lined up a certain way so any replacement arm will need to have the upper arm in the same position. have you thought about him holding a hammer two handed across his body. The right arms is already in the correct position. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Yeah I had done but I wasn't sure if it would fit, I suppose I could give it a try, are you on about the death company thunder hammer? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Been trying with the spear again this is what I have atm http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2720/g757.jpg http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8803/2t4w.jpg http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9696/b9le.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I managed to get a good across the body hold with a techmarine axe. What I found was I had to use some thick wire in places to fill in gaps the shaft. I think the spear thrust makes him look a bit unbalanced Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 So did you mean a back handed swing before when you were trying to talk me through it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 With the two handed hold? I was thinking it would make him look like he was advancing but not about to strike, passive but menacing. Not sure how long your hammer is though and what you have available as a holding left hand. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 How about this? http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6135/uoqe.jpg http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3859/93r5.jpg http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6201/n4nd.jpg Alternatively I have the forgeworld "round" plasma pistol to if that pistol int he picture ain't quite right, or I could give him a phobos pattern bolter or maybe even get a charge if I order one from a bits store or ebay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I think that looks good. I might use the smaller plasma pistol but that's more of a matter of taste though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hmm, I'm not sure on the ranged weaponry, the spear will count as a paragon blade which is a specialist weapon, so he can't get a bonus for using a pistol with it, so I was thinking of going with a volkite charger, which is an assault weapon with the possibility of inflicting four wounds. Where as the plasma pistol is a lot sleeker and smaller, but costs a bit more and I don't think I'll be playing that many space marine forces if I go by who plays what at my local store, so the volkite maybe a better all rounder. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 In Vulkan lives there's a picture of Numeon he has a glaive with a volkite weapon on it as well. So I'm thinking maybe I add a volkite weapon to the spear and change the right arm so that he's has a pointing finger instead of a weapon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Before you cut up his right arm, try lifting the left arm up so he is shooting from the hip, place the hammer/spear in a neutral position and rotate the head to face his shot. Other than that, the first attempt for the leading right spear looks the best, while the hammer could look just as good if it were 45 degrees up; it isn't a cricket bat, try holding a horizontal barbell pointing away from you steady with just one hand . The main problem with the model is the dysfunction between the legs and the rest of his body; the legs give off a semi active vibe while the body is not holding anything back. If you are not satisfied with your first spear and leading hammer attempt, neither with the hip shot, I would suggest cutting at the waist and sticking in either of the moving legs from the MkIV legion set, instead of cutting the right arm. Edit: rotate his left arm so he is holding the pistol up in celebration and it throws the torso into a static pose no matter what your right hand does (bar few exceptions). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I think Kais Klip has a good idea. As for ranged weapon the Volkite glave may be cool. If you look at custodian conversions you may see a way to do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 The artwork in Vulkan Lives shows it very clearly, I'm not sure what to do about the hand though, I'm trying to find a right pointing arm, or at least just the hand. Maybe this? http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/images/fw_cadian_command_pointing%20arm_large.jpg Or if I could get hold of just the arm from this model, that would be perfect. http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2380440a_99800101045_SMChronusCFC01_445x319.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Note raised bolt pistol :3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's hard to do that exactly, the shoulder pad is facing down on the vulkan model. I'm kind of really thinking of doing the volkite glaive, with a pointed hand, then he could represent numeon the equerry of Vulkan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3430735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 So I've attempted to sculpt a hand using a smaller pointing hand (sorry Marco Colombo) as the base and tried to bulk it up, this is how it looks so far. http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4531/ytia.jpg http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4925/owi0.jpg http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4415/82lb.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3431474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 He is looking really good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3431508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Do you think I should go ahead with convert the spear into a glaive with volkite at the top of the shaft? Something like this - http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4624/1d65.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278693-could-use-some-help-with-my-praetor/page/2/#findComment-3431575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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