Danny Cyanide Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Hey guys, I've embarked on a mission to create a multi part chosen kit from the Dark Vengeance and Chaos Raptor Minis. I've purchased 2 Dark Vengeance CHosen sets so that I'll be able to cut them apart with sacrificial parts. Here was todays work: Sacrificed the torsos to get the legs and heads: http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m165/Danny_Cyanide/minis/legs_zps350a1e6d.jpg http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m165/Danny_Cyanide/minis/heads_zps746f7286.jpg Tomorrow I plan to use the second set to get the torsos while sacrificing the heads and legs. I intend to cast these parts. Once this is done, I will be able to mix parts around, use arms from the raptors box and create a true multi part chosen set for my upcoming black legion project. Let me know what you guys think! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 what are you doing with these once your done? Are you going to cast yourself up some more? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3431308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 what are you doing with these once your done? Are you going to cast yourself up some more? I intend to cast these parts. :) Great work so far, thought about shoulderpads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3431382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think the shoulder pads and backpacks on the DV chosen are every bit as distinctive as the rest. Try to free up a few shoulder pads (saw them off the torso, saw the arm out from under them, dremmel away the inside until they can be placed on a normal arm), and make molds of those and the backpacks as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3431560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 You bet Mali, Ill be hollowing out the chosen shoulder pads as well as using some from the raptor kit, and I'm definitely casting the backpacks. When I'm done I should have torsos, legs, heads shoulder pads and backpacks from DV, as well arms torsos, heads and weapons from the raptor kit! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3431586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I advise against using raptor pads. They're a different size and shape completely from the chosen pads. It would be like mixing chaos marine and chaos terminator pads in the same unit. I already pretty heavily regret the one raptor pad I've used on one of my chosen conversions, and will probably be tearing it off to try and figure something else out. I may even go so far as to buy yet another second hand chosen set purely liberate the shoulder pads. Raptor arms and heads work fine, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3431591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Cool, thanks for the heads up on the size difference! I do plan on hollowing out all of the chosen pads do I should be able to get a decent set out of just them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3431605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Here are all of the components from the chosen. I still have to dremel out the shoulder pads and neck cavities, but that's a good look at the parts! http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m165/Danny_Cyanide/minis/image_zpsf4c6a732.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3432093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 it's going to be hard to cast those details.. you must be a casting ninja to even try it. when it works out, lemme know where to send money, and i'll let you know where to send a few sprues Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3432432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't think the detail level will be that big a challenge really, I've got a really good pressure casting setup and have been practicing for about 6 months now. If all goes well, I should have the first moulds poured on Tuesday and Wednesday. We will see how they look then! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3432537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 Side one of the moulds for the torsos, legs, heads and shoulder pads have been poured! Part two and first casting tomorrow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3437699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Well it took me longer to make the moulds than I had thought it would, but I've made the first cast of the bodies, legs and heads. http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m165/Danny_Cyanide/minis/20130904_002711_RichtoneHDR_zps41d23fd1.jpg in going to build them with plastic raptor arms and weapons as well as plastic backpacks because I haven't vast them yet, but I have multiple sets! Should finish building these 5 tomorrow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3445967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chats Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 You do realise that you are not only engaging in blatant copyright violations, but you're also letting the whole world know about it by posting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3445983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 You do realise that you have no idea what violation of copyright is don't you? Its called fair use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3445993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Yeah, I'm not to worried about GW coming after me for a little modeling project. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3445994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 yeah doing stuff like this should be no problem now if he were to turn around and sell them then GW could hit him hard... also that is the guys one and only post too...haha ...... But other then that Great work man...what type of stuff do you use to make your copies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3445995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Did something change in GW policy, because the last time someone snitched on people who were casting GW models for themself , GW send them a C&D. Crispy cast by the way . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3446063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I don't think they can stop you from re-casting for your own personal use, but you are not allowed to make money from their IP. That said, GW clearly does not produce a Chaos Chosen kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3446112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Did something change in GW policy, because the last time someone snitched on people who were casting GW models for themself , GW send them a C&D. Crispy cast by the way . Do you mean that GW sent a cease and desist order to the person casting for personal use? Thats cute. I'd send them back a photo of me wiping my ass with it. And then show them the relevant fair use clauses in Australian copyright law. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3446129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Looking good man. Real shame they didn't make them multipart plastic in the first place, or grant them the rules to make them rock. But hey ho! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3446155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRSFACE Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 They can send you a C&D order all they want but if you're not selling it, there isn't anything they can do about it. And has been noted, it's not like there's a chosen kit. Plastic, finecast, nothing. Nada. I think I get why the internet is all "GW HATES CHAOS" because considering how similar they are to the beloved regular space marines, they get the shaft in all sorts of odd areas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3446274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Looking very nice. I strongly recommend you wait until you have casts for the chosen packs ready, and use those instead of regular plastic csm packs. First because, like the shoulder pads, they're just a completely different design from other models in the range, and if you don't use them the models will look less 'choseny'. But more importantly because the chosen backpacks are significantly smaller than the regular CSM backpacks. Put them next to each other and see. Now, the chosen bodies themselves are slightly larger & bulkier than regular CSM bodies to begin with, but this difference is dramatically accentuated by the smaller backpacks. Regular chaos backpacks are overlarge to make room for chaosy details and a more baroque overall shape, but as a consequence those backpacks hang over the models that wear them, making them look smaller by comparison. Improvements in GW sculpting design and model production allow the new chosen packs to look chaosy while remaining closer in overall size to regular space marine backpacks, and as a result you get models that look just much better balanced and proportioned overall. If anything, the chosen backpacks would be the most important thing to make molds of. Had I the time, tools, and skill, I would use such methods to duplicate chosen packs in bulk, and then use them to replace the backpacks on all of my existing power armored chaos infantry models. The raptor / warp talon arms, weapons, and helmets, though, those work fine. Fantastic, even. So you're good to go, there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3446297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Oh I'll be using plastic chosen packs as I have multiple sets, sorry I wasn't clear about that! I just don't want to have to wait another 3 days to make the moulds before I finish this set! Capitano - I use smooth on mould max rubber and quick in cast resin for my casts, both Mould and resin are cast under pressure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3446472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chats Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 You do realise that you have no idea what violation of copyright is don't you? Its called fair use. I don't think this is fair use, but maybe you're right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3446903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chats Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I don't think they can stop you from re-casting for your own personal use, but you are not allowed to make money from their IP. I think they could, if they really wanted to. But maybe they'll not bother because it's such a small scale level of copying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278783-black-like-my-conscience-multi-part-chosen-project/#findComment-3446907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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