Demus Ragnok Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 So did each legion grow constantly after departing Terra? I know the EC and Thousand Sons suffered from set backs. Would the legions have been capped at 10000 before their primarchs were found or would they have been growing all along? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Well as of Vulkan Lives, the Salamanders also apparently join the list of setback Legions, but no explanation has been given yet or even how big the disaster was in terms of numbers lost/numbers survive. And just going by the paragraph from page 86 in Forgeworld's Betrayal: As the early decades of the Great Crusade progressed, and the first of the Primarchs were found, the XIIth Legion was broken up temporarily into a number of independent sub-commans, each several thousand Space Marines strong. The largest of which, at some 8,000 War Hounds, along with dedicated assault and fleet support elements was designated the 13th Expeditionary Fleet, or the 'Bloody 13th' as it became quickly known.I would say that there was no number cap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't see why they would cap it. They produced marines as fast as they could. Once they retook the Luna gene labs the number grew. I believe Luna Wolves got boosted first for their part in it. But as they spread out and found more recruiting worlds they'd expand their numbers. We know once they were found the primarchs had their own idea of how big their legion should be because Mortarion wanted 490,000 death guard, 7 companies of 70,000. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Yeah, but a couple of the Legions were pretty small. The Thousand Sons only numbered one thousand strong when they found Magnus. i think the Emperor's Children numbered around three thousand-ish. It's possible some never went above ten thousand, just unlikely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I dislike that all of a sudden the explanation as to why the Salamanders were small was they also nearly got destroyed prior to their Primarch turning up, cheap way out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Yeah, but a couple of the Legions were pretty small. The Thousand Sons only numbered one thousand strong when they found Magnus. i think the Emperor's Children numbered around three thousand-ish. It's possible some never went above ten thousand, just unlikely. I was referring the question of whether they would have been capped. I can't see any reason why they would and would have grown as much as recruits and gene seed allowed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I know. I wasn't disagreeing with you, just making a general statement. Some were pretty small, and it is possible that some didn't go over ten thousand for no reason other than they didn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think the numbers out of these FW books will be really interesting. I'm curious about how big the NL are and whether moved round together. Back when they around 10000 in size it would have been reasonable but 100000+ is pushing it I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Nah, old numbers were bad. It takes a million Marines to hold the Imperium together, but only a fifth of that to carve it out of bedrock in the first place? Having a couple million Marines makes the Great Crusade make more sense. After all, excluding the wars that will arise and build during M42, 30k is the era in which the tagline of "there is only war" most applies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 The timeline reached M42? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 The wars that will arise and build. Keyword being 'will.' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Oh. I just figured the universe would finally end at 00:00:00.000 on 000.M42. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Ah. I think of it as the actual beginning of the end. Yeah, it's been a ten thousand year decline, but from this point the end truly began. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278844-legion-size-before-finding-primarchs/#findComment-3433469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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