skawolf Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 So I have 2 pots of gnarloc green left. They for some reason look very different from one another. One being warmer than the other. Before I start re-painting my Salamanders to be a paler green using Gnarloc for the base I am mixing these two pots together in a larger pot to get one consistent color. My question is, is there an equivalent of Gnarloc green in the new paint range? I have enough room for at least 2 more pots of citadel paint to fit in my larger pot. I want to add more paint to get enough for me to do an army and not run out midway through and have to match the hodge-podge green I'm about to make. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 The "GW Color conversion chart" says that Loren Forest should be at least close. I would definitely do a color comparison though. What I've found with a lot of the new colors is that to get some of them close, you have to apply a Shade or Glaze over them to get the color closer/a match. I don't think there is a 100% equivalent for any of the colors between the old line and the new GW line though, no. You may want to take a look at the Army Painter, Vallejo Game Color, or Coat d'Arms lines, those seem to be color equivalents of the old GW range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3434884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Thanks. I don't need an exact match (hell, like I said, my 2 gnarloc green pots don't match each other) as I am basically mixing 4 pots of paint together. Just something close. I had looked at Loren green. Just looking for others opinions. Hopefully 4 pots will be enough as vehicles take quite a bit of paint. The formula for my paint goes: My gnarloc green mix (I'll call it salamanders green) agrax earthshade salamanders gren straken green nurgling... green?(all of my paints are in a box as I have yet to un pack them from my move to vegas. My desk just showed up yesterday so I guess its time) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3434892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 The "GW Color conversion chart" says that Loren Forest should be at least close. I would definitely do a color comparison though. What I've found with a lot of the new colors is that to get some of them close, you have to apply a Shade or Glaze over them to get the color closer/a match. I don't think there is a 100% equivalent for any of the colors between the old line and the new GW line though, no. You may want to take a look at the Army Painter, Vallejo Game Color, or Coat d'Arms lines, those seem to be color equivalents of the old GW range. Sadly, it's not even close. Luckily, I bought another five pots of it before it had completely disappeared - and will only think about the potential problems this may cause me later down the line. If anyone needs me, my head will be in the sand. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3434942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 What of castellan green or waagh flesh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3434953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Neither are close - probably a mixture of Loren/Castellan may get you close, but not the sort of mild blue undertone that Knarloc has. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3435379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argun Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I've found that Vallejo's Camo Light Green (Airbrush) to be either an exact, or very close, match to knarloc green. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3435460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 While this thread is still relatively new I will use it to ask the same question for Gryphone sepia.... I am about to run out and the new sepia looking wash looks like it won't be the same at all :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3446793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I think Army Painter Light Tone wash may be close to the old Gryphonne Sepia. From the Warp also did a good article on subs for Devlan Mud and Badab Black from the same range too, in case they are of interest to you. As for Gnarloc Green... Would you consider moving away from GW on that too? I'm pretty sure Vallejo or P3 would do a good match, and you get a lot more paint for your money as well. As you're in the US, Reaper paints are also very nice, and I'm certain you could get a good match from them too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3447301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 I'm not to big on the finish that reaper gives (at least the colors I have tried). I like gnarloc green and all of the old foundation paints for their finish and coverage. They dry matte and cover black smoothly even when watered down (a lot). I am just kinda pissed that they really don't have anything like the foundation range anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3447438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 If you want matte finishes, that's easy; add a single drop of matte medium to your paints on the palette. Even works with inks! ;) If you want foundation-style paints, try the Vallejo Extra Opaque range? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3448800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 I have not used vallejo since 2003 (last retailer I knew of in San Diego that sold them closed down). If i am able to find a retailer in Las Vegas that sells them I might give them a try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3449001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Eisenhorn Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 One other salient point in terms of Gnarloc vs Loren is that Loren is a "layer" paint, so it's not going to have the same coverage even if it was an identical color. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3449102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 One other salient point in terms of Gnarloc vs Loren is that Loren is a "layer" paint, so it's not going to have the same coverage even if it was an identical color. I was hoping that mixing it with my 2 pots of Gnarloc would somewhat remedy this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278933-gnarloc-green/#findComment-3449673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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