Crazy Jay Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Can skimmers be assaulted in the assault phase by ground troops? The specific example is me having DW Terminators (w/ Belial) against a Necron Monolith. I was told I can't because its a flyer. I looked in the codex and its listed as Heavy, Tank and Skimmer. Thoughts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 There's no special rule that I can see in the Skimmers section that prohibits being assaulted by ground troops so the regular rules for assaulting a vehicle (on p.76) apply. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3435126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 The person that told you that should get a copy of the 6th edition rule book. A very, very long time ago (3rd edition I think it was) ground troops couldn't assault skimmers, but that cheese has been gone for years, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3435130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Jay Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 So that means I don't need sky fire to effectively shoot it either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3435143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeven Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 No. Unless the vehicle specifically has the "Flyer" rule, it follows all the rules of a ground based vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3435152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Jay Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Thank you all for the quick replies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3435172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axagoras Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Always check a rulebook when someone tries to pull something like that, if it sounds off it usually is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3435516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 It's also worth mentioning that some flyers can hover. While it is hovering it no longer counts as a flyer and counts as a skimmer, so can be shot normally and assaulted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3435538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 The person that told you that should get a copy of the 6th edition rule book. A very, very long time ago (3rd edition I think it was) ground troops couldn't assault skimmers, but that cheese has been gone for years,In third edition, skimmers could only be hit on a 6, which is better than nothing Going further back, in second edition they could only be hit in hand-to-hand combat if they had landed, but the rules didn't appear to give any incentive to do this (other than if you crash), so that made skimmers essentially unattackable in hand-to-hand combat. The rules in the Vehicle Manual for Rogue Trader essentially don't differ from those in second edition in this respect, except that skimmers may attack each other in hand-to-hand combat (remember that in first and second editions, bikes were vehicles). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3435710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Orlock Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 ... Going further back, in second edition they could only be hit in hand-to-hand combat if they had landed, but the rules didn't appear to give any incentive to do this ... I recall once reading a second hand account of a battle report where one of the players landed his speeder so the gunner could disembark to grab an objective. I could see it having meaning if you were doing 'narrative' stuff like they thought most people did. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3436143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Also, a Monolith isn't a Flyer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278945-can-skimmers-be-assaulted-by-ground-troops/#findComment-3436242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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