GrandMagnus Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Nice minis brother, only two things about the "this is Sparta" guy. 1: if this is end of the crusade, why is he kicking a marine in the face? 2: his arms look... very long and weird. I dont know if thats on purpose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3441948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Think I can get a lot more character into my models with the Night Lords, the mix of brutality with the lightening assault tactics. That's the problem with 'nice' loyalists, you can't cover them in morbid trophies. I mean, can you imagine a Salamander with a half-dead guardsman strapped to his storm shield? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3441953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Of course I can. That man needs aid asap and clearly that Salamander is using the most of the resources he has on hand to create a suitable stretcher with which he can get him to the medicae for some proper help. Â Here's to you, unnamed Salamander. You're a god damned hero. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3441993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 Nice minis brother, only two things about the "this is Sparta" guy. 1: if this is end of the crusade, why is he kicking a marine in the face? 2: his arms look... very long and weird. I dont know if thats on purpose. I decided to swap to an Isstvan V force. Massacre caught my attention. As for the arms im not sure. Going to restart the champ, the pose needs work. Â KotR: I know. I think i have had a frustrating day and i want to take it out on little plastic men. But i will stay true to the Emperor and Corax. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3442000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 Ok so have been thinking, may forget the whole Isstvan thing (which means no Legion champ, or at least not in his current form) and, inspired by 1000heathens, consider the force organisation. I think this is a good way to get a feel for the army and build a narrative instead of just picking units from the book. Â I think it makes sense for a RG Company to contain a Rapid Insertion force with attached pathfinders. So going from that I will start with the first men on the ground, the pathfinders - Vigilator, Vets(sniper and outflank make them feel recon-y), recon squads, and Seekers. Then I will add the rapid insertion force - Praetor, Assault marines, jet bikes, land speeders. Â Not sure how to fit tac marines and heavy weapon squads in though, maybe an infantry attachment to secure objects? Could include a bit of armour that way to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3442406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Of course I can. That man needs aid asap and clearly that Salamander is using the most of the resources he has on hand to create a suitable stretcher with which he can get him to the medicae for some proper help. Â Here's to you, unnamed Salamander. You're a god damned hero. Â Â LOL, he starts crucifying the guardsman to his shield, "I'll be running you off the field in speeds exceeding 40 kph, straps will do us no good! Hold still!." Â Nice work, Demon. Glad you're sticking it out with the XIX :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3443514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I wouldn't put it past the Ravens to carry some skulls and enemy helms around. I'm thinking the Ravens' more sinister side - the one that comes with their namesake - has yet to have been demonstrated. Â Ragged cloth, claws, black feathers, even cowls. Dig deeper, mate, there's uncharted territory with the Ravens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3443728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Nice imagery and ideas there, Greyall. And that is true. The Raven Guard have always had a darker side to them. A sinister element. It'd be nice to see someone take that and expand upon it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3443734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 A quick search reveals that the expression "uncharted territory" may be almost literal. Found nothing on Google, Deviantart or Coolminiornot that comes close to the mentioned darker imagery. I did a redesign on Shrike, but since I had plausibility in mind, I went with a more conventional tone, though helms and skulls were added. Â Still, it's a Legion which has yet to get due attention. Go for it, mate, if it's character you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3443752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Your right mate. The raven is a creature often associated with death, and Corax has been shown to be worried about a darker side. I also had a thought that the non Terran recruits were former prisoners that revolted. I think it is implied that they were mainly political prisoners and workers who didn't meet there quota but I'm guessing there are still the other sort like thieves, murderous, and the like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Head over to Wikipedia, and drop in the word "Skin Walker". There are some seriously dark aspects of Native American culture, and could be woven into your company. F'rex, imagine this guy wearing Power Armour.... http://www.quileutes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/navajo_witch2.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Is...is his face painted or has the merging begun? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Jesus Christ Heathens I won't sleep for days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Skinwalkers..... the original nightmare........ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Is...is his face painted or has the merging begun? It's a blackened leather mask pulled tight, featureless, except miniscule eyeholes, and two dots of white.  Apparently designed to scare the hell out of M2C.  I was building a bunch of fluff for the Sons of Malice, using dark/evil myths (and a few truths) taken from the Native American, Mexican, and South American tribes. Hell, even my own tribe (Fox) has some seriously black hearted myths. Done quite a bit of research, so I figured, if used right, and a proper "grey-line" was walked, could work for loyalist Raven Guard. Not everything needs to be pretty wings and purity seals, after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Just as a matter of curiosity, could you pm this research? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Add me to that PM, if you send one out. I've been thinking of going that route for my White Scar successor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 It's mostly in my head now, though some of it is still down in the Chaos Forum, in the old Sons of Malice thread. If there's anything specific you guys would like, PM me your questions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Heathens that picture is mental. I will have to do some research on Native American culture. Â Out of interest any idea on the etymology of the name Mor Deythan? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Wind whisperers? Just guessing here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Skin walker raven guard would be terrifyingly awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Forgot to mention... the blackened mask he's wearing? It was traditionally the skin of whatever powerful spirit he was trying to tap into. Wolves, bear, coyote....... human..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I was building a bunch of fluff for the Sons of Malice, using dark/evil myths (and a few truths) taken from the Native American, Mexican, and South American tribes. Hell, even my own tribe (Fox) has some seriously black hearted myths.  And here I thought you were Tom Berenger from Platoon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 *snort* Still am, at heart. Staff Sergeant Barnes was an educated man. Just lethally dangerous. Â Edit: And considering the direction mainline 40k has gone, just as cynical as him as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Another Skinwalker, with a better (although less frightening) shot of the skin mask. http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwr0vbkUbs1qlve52o1_500.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278959-unkindness-of-ravens-xix-legion/page/2/#findComment-3444837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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