rag607 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hi. I have decided to try 40k after getting the DV set 6 months ago. I have played wfb and started to learn the rules and play a couple of games. For me however half the fun of the hobby has to be the painting etc. I started on DA and very quickly did not like the style of them. As a result I went back to wfb and did and empire army. I keep looking at the 40k games at the club and want to give it another go. I still wanted to start with amrines as they seem to have a bit of everything and a good army to learn with. I went for a basic codex marine force and have decide on Ultramarines. Now the other night I came in for some stick about this?! Seems a lot of Ultramarine hate out there!. So far I have managed a rhino and five marines. They are missing a little finishing detail at the moment. I tried transfers but could not get the "u" to sit right? Do people use transfers now? I got a batch of second hand premade marines so have had to make the best of these models. http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/ragentry1983/20130830_162942_zps1451f3ae.jpg http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/ragentry1983/20130829_122931_zps7f2059ad.jpg http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/ragentry1983/20130830_162957_zps46f60cac.jpg Any idea for improvments? What about the transfers? Am help would be much appriciated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Sergeant Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ultramarines have been hated for years, mostly for no good reason. 40K's creator, Rick Priestley, decided the Ultramarines were the best (somebody had to be I guess), and that hurt some feelings. Then, because the Ultramarines were just big guys in big armor with big guns, they became the poster boys for 40K since they didn't didn't need any extra explanation as to why they have hoodie bathrobes, or fangs, or fur. Then Mat Ward wrote a codex about the Ultramarines which hurt more feelings. Basically, Ultramarines became the whipping boy for GW player angst, all because GW didn't choose their favorite color of Space Marine to be the best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/#findComment-3440592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Most model kits (such as Tactical squads) get transfers in them, so as you buy stuff, you should be able to gather enough for your army. I'm no expert at using transfers, but I'm sure another Frater will be along shortly to offer advice in that regard The new Codex is about a week or so away from being released, so that might give you additional inspiration for collecting Ultramarines (or their successors). One thing I'd like to add - that Rhino is one of the original ones from around 20 years ago! (I know as I used to have 3, but they were sold a long time ago ), so you might want to keep hold of that In any case, don't ever let the attitudes and opinions of others stop you from collecting whatever army you want. My army (Rainbow Warriors) has often attracted derision and sarcastic comments from many (not from here, but there are those out there who will try to pick on you regardless of which army you collect ), so collect what you want. It's your hobby, your money that's paying for it, so let others think what they want. As long as you're happy, then you don't need to justify it to anyone (tl:dr - have fun! The most important part of ANY hobby!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/#findComment-3440607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ultramarine hate comes from a lot of different sources. There's some good reason to be annoyed with them, and occasionally even upset, but for the most part Ultrahate you see online is just the typical internet-rage nonsense. At any rate, don't trouble yourself with it. As for the models, the first thing that pops out at me is the trim on the shoulderpads. You need to shave down those clipper marks to a smooth surface before painting, just like mold lines. The piping on the chest of the bareheaded guy, most people would paint that a different color than the armor. Typically metallic. You can always go back and thin highlights using the previous shade of color, like using the darker base blue to thin and sharpen the wider highlights on some of the shoulderpads. There are indeed some classic bits here- the wide bolter with the wire stock is a classic 2nd Edition bolter, the backpack on the bareheaded guy is 2nd Edition, and the rhino is one of those god awful abominations I hated so much as a kid. Actually I think the marine with the classic bolter and knife on his shin may even be one of the old snap-togethers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/#findComment-3440685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mayhem Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ultramarines are the best. Don't let anyone sway you from that train of thought. Nice models by the way! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/#findComment-3440713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Nice start, and I love those bases, but the OSL eye glow needs a little work. As for hate? Well, they're the XIII Legion, so they're obviously unlucky. They're Ultramarines, but their armor isn't ultramarine blue. http://i.imgur.com/8Fp3jVT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/n5CWYuD.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/#findComment-3440724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rag607 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Cheers for the comments. Did get the impression they were not cool enough for some peoples liking! Not emo enough I guess The eyes havent come out how I wanted them..any advice on improving them? Ill try the transfers again. Got them on fine but any flat to round surface like that will always raise a little on one side and I hated that! Maybe a slit cut down the gap.in the u. Now I need to grasp the rules! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/#findComment-3440777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 You need to thin the paint way down to get the effect right. What you have doesn't even look like a glow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/#findComment-3440783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rag607 Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 The first units nearly complete and looking like this so far. http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/ragentry1983/20130915_184916_zps0b40fffc.jpg http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/ragentry1983/20130915_1849340_zpsb90ef763.jpg http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/ragentry1983/20130915_185038_zpsa543d421.jpg Added some weathering near the feet and markings. Think they need some chips etc on them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/#findComment-3462973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rag607 Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 And their transport http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/ragentry1983/20130915_201936_zps87e96ba5.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279185-ultramarine-plog/#findComment-3463054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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