Can a drop pod take two 5 man squads?

[Ishagu]

Just want it to be clarified..

[Seahawk]

No. It can take a single unit (that can combat squad upon arrival).

[DarkGuard]

Like Seahawk says, the Drop Pod can only take a single unit. If the unit is of 10 men, then the unit may combat squad upon arrival. So in essence you can set up your 10 man squad such that it is effectively two squads.

[nurglez]

Is this from the new codex? as old combat squad rules you combat squad at deployment, but could still both embark in a pod.

[Raeven]

New rules say essentially the same thing.  Combat Squaded units may enter combat in the same vehicle and my re-enter their dedicated vehicle together later in the game.

[nurglez]

But combat squading is still done at deployment rather then when deployed right?

[dswanick]

But combat squading is still done at deployment rather then when deployed right?

"immediately before deployment"

[Seahawk]

So since the unit doesn't deploy until they arrive...;)

[dswanick]

So since the unit doesn't deploy until they arrive...

Negative, Ghost Rider. When a unit becomes Available from Reserves Embarked upon a Transport Vehicle, they are "moved onto the table". Deployment is the step prior to the start of the game.

[Seahawk]

"units that must be deployed by Deep Strike"

 

"Models deploying via Deep Strike"

 

"If any of the models in a deep striking unit cannot be deployed"

 

"You opponent may deploy the unit"

 

;)

 

 

That being said, it does say before deployment and lists other things that clearly reference the pre-game deployment.

 

@nurglez: You got it mixed up a little. The current codex says they split when they arrive in the DP, but that was overwritten by the errata to say it's before deployment.

[dswanick]

"units that must be deployed by Deep Strike"

"Models deploying via Deep Strike"

"If any of the models in a deep striking unit cannot be deployed"

"You opponent may deploy the unit"

That being said, it does say before deployment and lists other things that clearly reference the pre-game deployment.

@nurglez: You got it mixed up a little. The current codex says they split when they arrive in the DP, but that was overwritten by the errata to say it's before deployment.

True to all, however Drop Pods are a special case in that only the Drop Pod "deploys by Deep strike" (ie pick a point, roll for scatter, place all models in base contact) as evidenced by the fact that the embarked models do not need to be placed in base contact with the Drop Pod (as they would if they were being "deployed" using the Deep Strike mechanic). Instead they disembark from a model which has just "deployed by Deep Strike", which is why they are allowed the 6" disembarkation and do not need to end up in a base contact cluster.

[Gentlemanloser]

Has the old edition FAQ that units embarked upon transport that enter play using Deep Strike also count as Deep Striking themselves disappeared?

 

It's why we can use Coteaz to "I've been expecting you" units that disembark from a Drop Pod.

[dswanick]

Has the old edition FAQ that units embarked upon transport that enter play using Deep Strike also count as Deep Striking themselves disappeared?

 

It's why we can use Coteaz to "I've been expecting you" units that disembark from a Drop Pod.

No, I'm pretty sure that's still in there - the models disembarking "count as" having "deployed via Deep Strike", even though they actually used the Disembarking game mechainc. Why?

[Gentlemanloser]

 

When a unit becomes Available from Reserves Embarked upon a Transport Vehicle, they are "moved onto the table". Deployment is the step prior to the start of the game.

 

If a unit in a Drop Pod counts as Deep Striking onto the table, then surely they count as deploying via Deep Strike, and are not moving onto the table?

[dswanick]

 

 

When a unit becomes Available from Reserves Embarked upon a Transport Vehicle, they are "moved onto the table". Deployment is the step prior to the start of the game.

If a unit in a Drop Pod counts as Deep Striking onto the table, then surely they count as deploying via Deep Strike, and are not moving onto the table?

No.

 

"In the Movement phase during which they arrive, deep striking units may not move any further, other than to disembark from a deep striking Transport vehicle if they are in one.", BRB, pg.36

They are "arriving" and "disembarking from a deep striking Transport". They only "count as" deploying by deep strike for the purposes of those rules which trigger on deployment from deep strike.

 

If they actual "deployed by deep strike" you would have to:

 

"Roll for arrival of all deep striking units as specified in the rules for Reserves and then deploy them as follow:

- First, place one model from the unit anywhere on the table, in the position where you would like them to arrive, and roll for scatter to determine the model's final position. etc...

- Next, the unit's remaining models are arranged around the first one. Models must be placed in base contact with the first model in a circle around it. etc...

- Models deploying via Deep Strike treat all difficult terrain as dangerous terrain.", BRB, pg.36

If the unit embarked within the Drop Pod were "deploying by Deep Strike" you would have to meet all of the criteria for those rules including the clustering of the models, instead of taking advantage of the rules for Disembarking which allows for a greater amount of control over where the individual models final placement is and does not require that the models in the unit be in base-to-base contact.

 

But all of this is getting pretty far off of the point of the thread. The OP asked if two five man units can occupy a Drop Pod. The short answer to this question is "yes, so long as they are combat squads from the same unit".