Converting our own Centurions

[Captain Idaho]

So does anyone have any ideas on alternative Centurion models? I was considering Cataphractii Terminators into Centurions, but I'm not sure if they are quite big enough? Any off the wall inspiration for people?

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Legiones_Astartes/Space_Marine_Legion_Army_List/LEGION_ELITES/Legion_Terminator_Squad/CATAPHRACTII_PATTERN_TERMINATORS.html

[The_Chaplain]

Puppetswar is working on an alternative to centurion armor http://i.imgur.com/GqnOFAe.jpg

 

Personally, (If I was mad enough to take what I feel to be such a lackluster looking, completely un-fluffy, non-fitting unit like centurions) is cut and reposition the legs so that they could then be outfitted with leg thrusters both in the back of the leg (closing off the exposed power armor), and modifying the hip plate armor to be air intake vents.  Then it would be an issue of modifying the backpack to look more like a high output assault jetpack.  That's step 1.

 

 Step 2 begins with removing the metal mittens and strapping the assault drills onto their place, giving the model a power-loader feel. (I'm assuming that despite it's looks, a lot of people are gonna be running the assault variant. Don't ask me why.) Next, we would square off the shoulders, remove the ornamentation and make some proper looking weapon mounts.  There were a lot of concept sketches for the space marine centurion- and a couple of them had bulky missile launchers mounted near the shoulders.  Lastly, I'd find a better head for the friggin' thing. Personally, an iron warriors dreadnought head from forgeworld with the sinister, knightly feel to it suits the reimagined centurion a lot better.

 

Suddenly you've gone from a waddling terminator + the subject of internet ridicule everywhere, to something akin to the iron monger from Iron man with hovering capabilities of an aries suit from gundam. Why waddle through cover when you can menacingly hover through it, with the mass of 4 mac trucks and simply plow through any building in your way? Imagine what the reaction from xenos commanders would be to that coming at their strategically important gun batteries and fortifications- a figurative brick marine plowing through a building a measly meter from the ground before landing on their tank and going to town like a mechanical gorilla? 

[nurglespuss]

For me, it would have to be altering the new models (if I ever fork out the crazy price).

 

Mainly, trimming the side toes of the feet, or at least getting them to look more like big marine feet, and altering the pose to be more animated, possibly using a terminator head, and armouring the back to 'hide' the power armour so it looks more like a complete suit and not a suit holder.

[Brother Heinrich]

If I could ever stomach actually using the rules I would just make heavy weapons teams with one member carrying a siege shield and both having upgraded armor. Makes more sense than some giant tottering uber armor baby.

[skawolf]

If I could ever stomach actually using the rules I would just make heavy weapons teams with one member carrying a siege shield and both having upgraded armor. Makes more sense than some giant tottering uber armor baby.

Could models them as terminator heavy weapon specialists (which honestly I would have prefered... though I am one of the few on the internet that don't take issue with the centurions)

 

It makes sense seeing as though we have tactical terminators and assault terminators. Why can't we have devastator terminators?

[Verythrax Draconis]

If I could ever stomach actually using the rules I would just make heavy weapons teams with one member carrying a siege shield and both having upgraded armor. Makes more sense than some giant tottering uber armor baby.

maybe even a FW terminator + breacher combo.

[nurglespuss]

I like the idea of devastator terminators.... remember the old space wolf Ranulf conversion? ;p 

 

Hmmmm how to do it.... Could even do a terminator with heavy weapons on an up armoured bike! ;p

[skawolf]

I like the idea of devastator terminators.... remember the old space wolf Ranulf conversion? ;p 

 

Hmmmm how to do it.... Could even do a terminator with heavy weapons on an up armoured bike! ;p

lol

[averykess]

just put the Centurion lower leg/feet on normal marines and you now have the Angry Marines Power Feet!

[skawolf]

just put the Centurion lower leg/feet on normal marines and you now have the Angry Marines Power Feet!

Powerkicks!

[IamJacksUserName]

I think I might just use the centurion rules with the castellax battle automata from forge world. I have been looking for an excuse to add them to my army.

[Grotsmasha]

I think I might just use the centurion rules with the castellax battle automata from forge world. I have been looking for an excuse to add them to my army.

Seems like the way to go if you don't like the Centurion models. Personally I'm going to try make them info Art Scale termies.

 

Cheers,

Jono

[Cod]

It was mentioned somewhere before about maybe making a fire 'team' on a slightly larger base.

 

If that were considered, why not just use the FW HH legion rapier graviton cannon?

[jimbo1701]

I've done this chap from the new kit. I repositioned one of the feet, made a larger gap in the knee joints, changed the way the groin armour is postioned adn reconstructed the waist. Finally, I made the chest mounts into vents and swapped out the mittens for the secondary weapons - makes sense to have both primary and secondary armament firing in the same direction. More pics and a semi-tutorial on my blog from tomorrow.

 

[Verythrax Draconis]

Wouldn't a Castellan be more on a dread size?

[NemFX]

The problem with converting them is that the bases are a new size. The models themselves aren't as bad as everyone has been saying (I personally love the three centurions on my desk in front of me) but the bases are a bit bigger than terminators, and smaller than dread sized ones. That's the major limiting factor in conversions right now.

 

As for how I would convert more? I would basically make a junkyard version of a centurion suit. My army tends to be very DIY in terms of survival, so they'd probably make something closer to the mark 1 armour in the first Iron Man movie.

[Surrender_Monkey]

I like the puppetwar version quite a alot, but I would want to use the GW official weapons to avoid confusion regarding WYSIWYG, which would mean buying the bits and would probably end up very expensive indeed.

 

@jimbo1701 - Is it too difficult to reposition the armpit weapons elsewhere? I think the added bulk around the chest is a big part of what makes them look so unwieldy, without those I can imagine them actually being able to turn from side to side.

[Bannus]

If I do shell out the money for Centurion models, it will certainly be for models that I actually like - so if I go for it, it will likely be the Puppetswar version.

 

Thanks for posting it!

[Verythrax Draconis]

How about Warzone's Juggernaut?

A head swap would be enough, I guess: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-x_K-iBgp4h8/UhJPyzvBGeI/AAAAAAAAHHA/ct9Y9Sdlk-o/s1600/jugger.jpg

[Doghouse]

 

I think I might just use the centurion rules with the castellax battle automata from forge world. I have been looking for an excuse to add them to my army.

Seems like the way to go if you don't like the Centurion models. Personally I'm going to try make them info Art Scale termies.

 

Cheers,

Jono

 

That's what I'm doing at the moment, they work really well for that.

[Grotsmasha]

 

 

I think I might just use the centurion rules with the castellax battle automata from forge world. I have been looking for an excuse to add them to my army.

Seems like the way to go if you don't like the Centurion models. Personally I'm going to try make them info Art Scale termies.

 

Cheers,

Jono

 

That's what I'm doing at the moment, they work really well for that.

I dare say yours will look a damn sight better than mine. Having said that, with one almost done, there's a couple of things I'll do differently that should make things easier on the second and third one.

 

Cheers,

Jono

[Disruptor_fe404]

I've done this chap from the new kit. I repositioned one of the feet, made a larger gap in the knee joints, changed the way the groin armour is postioned adn reconstructed the waist. Finally, I made the chest mounts into vents and swapped out the mittens for the secondary weapons - makes sense to have both primary and secondary armament firing in the same direction. More pics and a semi-tutorial on my blog from tomorrow.

 

 

Nicely done. I will be doing exactly what you have done when I get round to my list that uses Centurions! Any chance of a tutorial? I might modify the feet a little further, personally.

[WarriorFish]

I've done this chap from the new kit. I repositioned one of the feet, made a larger gap in the knee joints, changed the way the groin armour is postioned adn reconstructed the waist. Finally, I made the chest mounts into vents and swapped out the mittens for the secondary weapons - makes sense to have both primary and secondary armament firing in the same direction. More pics and a semi-tutorial on my blog from tomorrow.

 

That's a great way to handle the chest weaponry, I was wondering how I was going to sort that. Now I just need to find a suitable replacement for them, I'm thinking shoulder mounted but I'll need to find something to use for that.

[jimbo1701]

I like the puppetwar version quite a alot, but I would want to use the GW official weapons to avoid confusion regarding WYSIWYG, which would mean buying the bits and would probably end up very expensive indeed.

 

@jimbo1701 - Is it too difficult to reposition the armpit weapons elsewhere? I think the added bulk around the chest is a big part of what makes them look so unwieldy, without those I can imagine them actually being able to turn from side to side.

 

It'd be really difficult to remove those parts and not affect how the shoulder pads attach. A lot of cabling/pistons would need cutting down and there would no longer be anywhere for the arms to sit (unless they were inside the suit arms at that point). It's a  tricky model to convert unfortunately and I don't like the sculptors 'arms crossed over chest' theory from WD - just seems to me that he hadn't thought about it til it was too late.

 

 

I've done this chap from the new kit. I repositioned one of the feet, made a larger gap in the knee joints, changed the way the groin armour is postioned adn reconstructed the waist. Finally, I made the chest mounts into vents and swapped out the mittens for the secondary weapons - makes sense to have both primary and secondary armament firing in the same direction. More pics and a semi-tutorial on my blog from tomorrow.

 

 

Nicely done. I will be doing exactly what you have done when I get round to my list that uses Centurions! Any chance of a tutorial? I might modify the feet a little further, personally.

 

There's a partial tutorial up on my blog - link at  the bottom of this post.

 

 

I've done this chap from the new kit. I repositioned one of the feet, made a larger gap in the knee joints, changed the way the groin armour is postioned adn reconstructed the waist. Finally, I made the chest mounts into vents and swapped out the mittens for the secondary weapons - makes sense to have both primary and secondary armament firing in the same direction. More pics and a semi-tutorial on my blog from tomorrow.

 

That's a great way to handle the chest weaponry, I was wondering how I was going to sort that. Now I just need to find a suitable replacement for them, I'm thinking shoulder mounted but I'll need to find something to use for that.

 

depending what weapon loadout you go for then you could maybe conside a cyclone rack?

[WarriorFish]

I hadn't even thought of that! Maybe cut them down a bit, racks of 3 would fit better and it'd make the cyclone go further and probably wouldn't be too much work.

 

The Centurions are becoming as much a modelling project to improve my skills as anything else, so keep up the good ideas everyone this is very motivating stuff :)