Validar Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Hail and well met to all the tactical masterminds that roam this place. Me and my friends had a good laugh yesterday. We took a look at the Master of the Forge and the rules for Servo Arms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a Servo Arm is now a melee weapon you can choose to use, like any other piece of wargear (unlike former codex, where the servo arm attacked on its own). Not only was this hilarius because my friend's MotF was sporting nothing less than a Thunder Hammer, but also because it is specifically stated under the entry that he has the option of buying a power axe (which is already available through the melee weapons list, buuuut nevermind that). Why would a MotF ever, ever, ever, ever have a power axe? - He gets an additional attack from having the harness, which has 2 servo arms, so no argument there. - the 2x strength will always be better, no matter how you twist and turn it. (agreed, at str 1 they both allow 2 str) - they are both ini 1 weapons - though axes are ap2, the servo arms are ap1 Is there ever a reason to buy a power axe as a motf? Or is it just something there for those who brought the model with a power axe? Or, even better, is this trolling on a codex level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 You lose the servo-harness if you take a conversion beamer. Taking it would have an effect in that instance. And all the stock miniatures have them, obviously, so they need to support the option. It does allow swapping out the boltgun, which isn't possible with the Wargear Lists that specify bolt pistol/melee weapon. Overall though, that entire page is just the latest in a long line of badly thought out Techmarine entries. I'm particularly enjoying having to pay for a power axe just so I have something to swap for a thunder hammer to make one of my miniatures legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corlinjewell Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I think Lucien is right about the conversion beamer. But I think it also has a lot to do with model that was created before power weapons had different statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 My vote for the most useless upgrade goes to being able to take a storm shield for your captain/chapter master at extra cost when they already come with Iron Halos. This effectively means I can't model a storm shield on (as a counts as iron halo or as itself) unless I pay points for something I don't need/has no use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Do scout bikers still get their shotguns? :P I'm still irritated by the change to the harness attacks, but AP1 is nice. I'm just wondering who thought Techmarines were so overpowered in CC that they needed taking down a notch or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well the shield does get you a slightly better invuln. I'd cast my vote to the Chapter Champion combat blade option as most useless because it only exists because of the ultramarine chapter champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well the shield does get you a slightly better invuln. I'd cast my vote to the Chapter Champion combat blade option as most useless because it only exists because of the ultramarine chapter champion. Wait what? You get a 3++ save from a storm shield? If that's the case I retract my statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well the shield does get you a slightly better invuln. I'd cast my vote to the Chapter Champion combat blade option as most useless because it only exists because of the ultramarine chapter champion. Wait what? You get a 3++ save from a storm shield? If that's the case I retract my statement Thats the only reason anyone's ever used em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well the shield does get you a slightly better invuln. I'd cast my vote to the Chapter Champion combat blade option as most useless because it only exists because of the ultramarine chapter champion. Wait what? You get a 3++ save from a storm shield? If that's the case I retract my statement Where have you been for the last edition? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquamarine Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It WAS 4++ but that was 2 editions ago And then only for CC saves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Angels, you cheeky ragamuffin! What will we do with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Back on to the point of the tech marine gang I need to actually remove my power axe from my one dude because I don't want it anymore, not sure what to give him though. Wish he maintained the old just start with a power weapon because why not but I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 To answerthe OP's question, its trolling on codex level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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