Verythrax Draconis Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 From the new FW video:https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6ydvApfAkbHdFgzY19nZGFiM3c/edit?usp=sharing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 hmeh hmeh hmeh - Iron Father running around with Thallax Cohorts and Morlocks (plus the Gorgon himself) outflanking in Spartans... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3460518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share Posted September 13, 2013 hmeh hmeh hmeh - Iron Father running around with Thallax Cohorts and Morlocks (plus the Gorgon himself) outflanking in Spartans... IH are stepping in the 40k Raven Guard's lawn a bit :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3460556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auracon Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Let's hope forgeworld will provide us with some awesome models and conversion bits. Iron Hands might be finally getting some love. It's been a while since we've received some new bionic bits, and this year's space marine release has been a bit dissapointing for IH players (not a single bionic arm/leg in any of the new boxes!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3462512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I would LOVE to see a FW bionics kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3462515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 although the iron hands have FINALLY gotten the awesome rules they damn well deserve, this makes me worried about my own fourth, since a bunch of the rules shown on that page could just as well work on my iron warriors. i wonder if some rules will be shared between the legions, or if FW will go an entirely different route with my beloved Olympians. wonder what Immortal Squads do, sure have a cool name though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3462642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwingt65 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Uhhhhhh, thats some awesome rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3462705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Keyaetus Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 No wonder they need more infantry than bikes etc, t5 with -S to incoming shooting would be great if it was common across the army, even then I can imagine iron hands terminators being alot tougher now...especially the incoming Gorgon terminators, their bound to be tougher somehow, whether by feel no pain, extra toughness or and improved Inviolable armour. I wonder if the Praetor will have access to a machinator array. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3462721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hammett Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Wow, -1 strength to shooting is HUGE. I'm just glad I play loyalists too, maybe my gaming groups Heresy campaign will end a little differently to the historical one! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3462725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 For once something that represents heavy infantry being able to advance before tons of fire power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3462731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 hmeh hmeh hmeh - Iron Father running around with Thallax Cohorts and Morlocks (plus the Gorgon himself) outflanking in Spartans... IH are stepping in the 40k Raven Guard's lawn a bit Well we have yet to see the RGs rules so I'm sure they'll be tasty and completely outflanking nastiness :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3463169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Those Iron Hands got some awesome rules, and I'm liking the Night Lords ones too.But hey, can't beat my emperor's Children and...oh. They get to roll an additional dice when running and pick the highest? And +d3" to Sweeping advance? Brilliant. Still, could be worse, they...oh. Have to issue challenges as well? Yeah. My EC aren't too pleased haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3463871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Teeth Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I, personally, can't wait to field Iron Hands' Tactical Support squads with Graviton Guns instead of flamers... for 10 points of course! But still... all those Haywire shots! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3463890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveNYC Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Um... -S to shooting? Not to put too fine a point on it, but is there some huge Iron Hand fanboy over at Forgeworld? Deathguard, the guys who were supposedly known for being able to take a licking and keep on ticking, only got being able to ignore dangerous terrain (or some such) and bonus destroyer squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3463893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwingt65 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Um... -S to shooting? Not to put too fine a point on it, but is there some huge Iron Hand fanboy over at Forgeworld? Deathguard, the guys who were supposedly known for being able to take a licking and keep on ticking, only got being able to ignore dangerous terrain (or some such) and bonus destroyer squads. I dont think the death guard individually were tougher then other marines. It was more the legion itself that was relentless as hell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3463898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveNYC Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 True, with the exception of dealing with toxins of course. Still, -S on shooting attacks is a heck of a change from the traits the legions in Betrayer got. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3463912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Wow iron hands finally got some fluffy love! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3463933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Kage, FW already has a bionic kit. It's the character upgrade kit...been out for years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3463944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 hmeh hmeh hmeh - Iron Father running around with Thallax Cohorts and Morlocks (plus the Gorgon himself) outflanking in Spartans... IH are stepping in the 40k Raven Guard's lawn a bit Well we have yet to see the RGs rules so I'm sure they'll be tasty and completely outflanking nastiness I mean the 40k RG rules ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3463952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I, personally, can't wait to field Iron Hands' Tactical Support squads with Graviton Guns instead of flamers... for 10 points of course! But still... all those Haywire shots! +10 points per Graviton Gun. But still, I'm definitely up for fielding a couple of All-Graviton 10-Man Tactical Support Squads... I could even transport them in a Land Raider Proteus or Phobos due to the other part of the Head of the Gorgon Rite of War :D I currently only have one Fast Attack choice planned (5 x Landspeeder Talon), and one Jump Pack unit which I may now abandon (Destroyer Squad), or just run without Jump Packs. I'm also glad to see that the Iron Hands are able to field Jetbikes, albeit in reduced numbers. There were a load of rumours going around (largely based on the awful Feat of Iron in the Primarchs anthology) which indicated that the Iron Hands did not use Jetbikes at all... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3464107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I think the -1 Strength to Ranged Attacks is a bit OP... honestly, they probably should've given it a downside like 'Volkite weaponry gains the Concussive rule against Iron Hands to show the beam attack interfering with bionics' or some such rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3464212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I think the -1 Strength to Ranged Attacks is a bit OP... honestly, they probably should've given it a downside like 'Volkite weaponry gains the Concussive rule against Iron Hands to show the beam attack interfering with bionics' or some such rule. I think that whilst a little OP for the moment, we don't know what additions will be made to the other Legions (especially traitors) in the coming months/years as the books progress, I'd say it's highly likely that there will be similar additions for the DG when they start going all nurgle and pustules... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3464383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I have to wonder if the original 4 Legions from Betrayal will get update rules, or if it'll just be new Rites of War to display their method of warfare. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3464551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 As discussed in the Incoming Models thread, if the EC rules are anything to go by, it will just be new Rites of War. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3464553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I think the -1 Strength to Ranged Attacks is a bit OP... honestly, they probably should've given it a downside like 'Volkite weaponry gains the Concussive rule against Iron Hands to show the beam attack interfering with bionics' or some such rule. There are downsides: Stand and Fight: All models with the Legiones Astartes (Iron Hands) special rule must pass a Leadership test in order to make Sweeping Advances after winning an assault or to make a Run move in the Shooting Phase. In addition, models with this rule may not voluntarily Go to Ground. Rigid Tactics: An Iron Hands detachment may not have more units with the Legiones Astartes (Iron Hands) special rule in total (including Independent Characters) with the Jump Infantry, Bike or Jetbike types than it does with the Infantry type. Note that because of this, certain Rites of War are unavailable to Iron Hands armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280159-iron-hands-legion-rules-from-the-fw-video/#findComment-3465212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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