Hyaenidae Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 ebay search some of those Necron stalker legs. A little greenstuff and cabling, and you could easily Imperialize them, man. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 So... Since it's been suggested a couple of times in this thread now, it there a reason why you wouldn't consider the Mantic Forgefathers Jotum Hailstorm Cannon? It pretty much ticks all the boxes, and looks pretty modifiable form the sprue pix I've seen online. If you just want some tank tracks to use as a platform, you'd be best just going to your local hobby shop an buying a Russian or WW2 Italian tank kit on the cheap (literally a few dollars...) to cannibalise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 If you remove the blast shield the Mantic dwarf cannon should look like a really good TFC. It's really hard to find images of it without the shield though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherCaptainArkhan Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Just saw that Hailstorm cannon. Gimme gimme gimme. The blast shield is what makes it look awesome and like it could actually merit the T7 3+... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 If you remove the blast shield the Mantic dwarf cannon should look like a really good TFC. It's really hard to find images of it without the shield though. Hmm, found these if they are any good: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--QbUlQDjZfo/Ts9_eDQ1yEI/AAAAAAAAAaw/Jzbeplk7aRQ/s1600/Jotun+Hailstorm+Cannon+Assembly.png http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eeArcYC0xAs/Ts9_bWI7VyI/AAAAAAAAAag/1gqXdK__v8w/s1600/assembly+2.png I also found to helpful scaling shots: http://gravengames.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/forge-fathers-jotunn-heavy-hailstorm-cannon-16.jpg http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/chromedog/IMGP0165.jpg During my searches, it seems that a number of SM players *do* actually use these as TFC already! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to pick up one of those forgefather cannons now :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Hah me too! Now just need to make a techmarine... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Luckily I have plenty of those already...... Maybe going to see if i can pick up some full servo harnesses somewhere : / Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I think the Robogear Helix (or other similar kit) would make a great tracked base for a Thunderfire Cannon - cheap too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Well, I'm trying to avoid third party bits so that I can occasionally take these things into a GW shop and blow stuff up (they no likey the third parties). Seems like that's a very limiting requirement on the bits hunt, though. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I thought you could use 3rd party - just the majority of the model needs to be GW. Correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 No idea, I haven't asked I just want to avoid the problem altogether if I can. The Mantic gun certainly is a lot cheaper than a thunderfire, though...even after you account for plucking an old school Terminator off ebay. Wish I could see how the tracks measure up beside a Stalker's cannons. I don't care much for the guns on the Mantic version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanVerde Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Don't give me any grief on this, LOL. But if your main problem is finding the treads to use with the stalker guns then I suggest looking for odd items with treads like say Wall-E toys.http://www.ebay.com/itm/12CM-4-7-WALL-E-WALLE-TV-Movie-Robot-Disney-Action-Gaming-Figures-Toy-/350769987679?pt=TV_Movie_Character_Toys_US&hash=item51ab85405fThese may work just perfectly for what your looking for then use some creativity to fit them with the stalker cannons. Kinda wish I had thought of this before buying 2 TFC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSong7007 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Hmm my local shop has a couple of those mantic guns. Never bought them due to no one having one I could look at. Looking at it now I think I may pick them up. Always wanted 2 TF. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venemox Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 http://www.pdcgaming.co.uk/ PDC gaming did these for a Kickstarter, I have a couple coming on the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Dunno why everyone seems to go with that style of tread, the perfectly upright triangle shape I mean. I quite like the low to the ground treads on the stock Thunderfire. Actually the Thunderfire is a beautiful model over all, there are just too many issues involved with it...mostly money :P And I'm sorry, but those are just ugly as sin Venemox :teehee: The guns themselves look fine, but that puny little body and the comical shovel on the fronts...*shudder* Hrm... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSong7007 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Found this while strolling through ebay instead of doing this paper.. Thunderfire Cannon alternate Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3465959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamJacksUserName Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You could always get some of the old guard tracks from the old chimera or Russ kits. You can easily make treads out of them and some plasticard tube. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3466001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Hmm. Anyone got any idea how big these http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROBOGEAR-BITS-TORNADO-SMALL-TANK-TREAD-/360723726265?pt=Games_US&hash=item53fccf3fb9 or these http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROBOGEAR-BITS-HELIX-TRI-WHEEL-TANK-TREAD-/331019253046?pt=Games_US&hash=item4d1248f536 are? Oh, that second one could work: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kX3htCfXgVU/SGMtDHLX1hI/AAAAAAAAAlc/zSrcbn9r5FQ/s400/IMG_9500.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3466075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I think you can use third-party stuff in a GW store, but it has to be well-disguised and/or not form the visual majority of the final model. Asking the guys in the GW store is not the best thing to do either, unless you know them well, as they will likely err unnecessarily on the side of "no". The important part (IMO) is to ensure that you convert it, and that it can be seen to have been integrated into your army. Changing the barrel muzzles, replacing the rear section where the gunner sits, changing the ammo hoppers, modifying the front shield, and adding suitable chapter iconography will all go a long way towards this. As long as it "looks" Space Marine, it shouldn't be an issue; if somebody asks you about it, you can just say it was bashed from a cheap kit you found online (which is true). Virtually nobody will be a big enough jerk to deny you the use of a nicely converted model, but they might well do if they think you're just using another company's proxy made straight from the box. For anyone who was wondering about the scale of the thing to a Rhino, here's another handy pic: http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/chromedog/IMGP0169.jpg Note that in this picture, I think the back of the gun has been modified with some SM control gubbins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3466477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Hmm. Anyone got any idea how big these http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROBOGEAR-BITS-TORNADO-SMALL-TANK-TREAD-/360723726265?pt=Games_US&hash=item53fccf3fb9 or these http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROBOGEAR-BITS-HELIX-TRI-WHEEL-TANK-TREAD-/331019253046?pt=Games_US&hash=item4d1248f536 are? Oh, that second one could work: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kX3htCfXgVU/SGMtDHLX1hI/AAAAAAAAAlc/zSrcbn9r5FQ/s400/IMG_9500.JPG That is one of the Robogear vehicles I was talking about. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3466633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Although I have no converting skills, I've always wanted to make a Thunderfire where the Techmairne is 'carrying' it with two arms of thier servo harness, using the other two to brace themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3466747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Will those robogear treads fit on the Thunderfire's base? I dunno how big it is. If I do go with that, the main issue will then become how to make the central platform. I don't think the lil car thingy would look good. I've seen some people doing 'scratch' builds of it and using the razorback top plate to more or less make the chassis. I'm really out of my element with all of this, anyway. I'm a seasoned kitbasher, but building things from the ground up isn't something I've done before Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3466757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 They are a little bigger than the actual treads - but I seriously doubt you will find anything else closer for the price. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3466810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 So long as they fit on the same base I don't see it as a huge issue. Better they be a bit bigger than comically dinky :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-3466831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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