Peredyne Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Meh. Personally, I'd use the Forge World Rapier Weapons Battery as a counts as TFC or as the basis for a conversion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3466978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Meh. Personally, I'd use the Forge World Rapier Weapons Battery as a counts as TFC or as the basis for a conversion. If money wasn't an issue, so would I. But seeing as money is quite an issue, Forge World is just about the last place I can look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3466984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 If money wasn't an issue, so would I. But seeing as money is quite an issue, Forge World is just about the last place I can look. Well, GW is coming pretty close now..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3466992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seleucus Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 From experience, and talking to other gamers, it would appear that it is now GW's official stance that ALL models used in their stores must be 100% GW bits or scrap-built with nothing from another manufacturer included. Some store staff MAY allow the occasional conversion so long as most (50% plus) is GW bits, but it is at their discretion. I believe that this is also the case for any competitions/tournaments they run or sponsor, either locally or (inter)nationally. For non-GW run/sponsored tournaments, it would be best to ask the organisers beforehand. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3467032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peredyne Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 The TFC from GW currently sells for 56.00 USD. Accounting for shipping, the Rapier from Forgeworld costs 53.80 USD. Admittedly, it's not much of a savings, but it is a savings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3467614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 From experience, and talking to other gamers, it would appear that it is now GW's official stance that ALL models used in their stores must be 100% GW bits or scrap-built with nothing from another manufacturer included. Some store staff MAY allow the occasional conversion so long as most (50% plus) is GW bits, but it is at their discretion. I believe that this is also the case for any competitions/tournaments they run or sponsor, either locally or (inter)nationally. For non-GW run/sponsored tournaments, it would be best to ask the organisers beforehand. I seriously think that too many people get hung up on this! GW's stance has always been what you state from the early 90's onwards. The thing is, that they don't want somebody coming into a store, see your model and say "Hey, cool! Where did you get that?" and then get pointed to a competitor's product range. If when somebody asks, you can say "well, I used part of a toy and then scratch-built the rest - the guns are from the new Stalker tank kit", then GW don't lose a sale, and might even shift a Stalker kit as a result. That's really all it comes down to. But I cannot ever remember GW being so unreasonably strict as to ban anything that isn't 100% GW or scratch-built. That's just spread by overly-paranoid types who heard a story from a friend once, and "don't want to risk it". What's worse is, that if you ask, you risk staff just saying "no" because they're not actually sure and just pretending it's policy to justify it - then you've got nowhere to go. Whereas if you just show up and play, chances are nobody will say anything at all to you as long as it's obvious you've made a reasonable effort. As I said, the main thing it to make sure that it looks totally appropriate, and that all the important bits are converted in some way. So if you take the Jotun Hailstorm, and you remove the back, swap the ammo hoppers, convert the blast shield, lengthen the barrels and change the muzzles... How is that not basically a scratch build? Also, how reasonable is it to insist "GW only"? I mean, aside from the TFC itself (or FW), there's nothing reasonably suitable that you can use! At the end of the day, it's your money, your time, your hobby, and your enjoyment. If the worst that happens is that you sometimes can't use your TFC on a store night... Well, small price to pay, no? Anyway, I think the Robogear tracks were a good suggestion. I also think you could get a lot of mileage from a WW1 "Renault FT17" kit in 1:76 or 1:72 scale too. The tracks and hull and pretty much just what you want, and details like vision slits are easily hidden with Aquila and BT icons. Alternatively, the "Char B1 Bis" in a similar scale could work well too. Failing that, you could try some tracks from Ramshackle Games maybe? They are cheap, the service is good, and I doubt the shipping will be much if you email him first. Ramshackle also do chassis, hulls, detail parts and even guns! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3467791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherCaptainArkhan Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hi guys, in case anyone's interested I now have a pair of the Mantic Hailstorm Cannons and I think they're perfect for Thunderfires. Here they are with a pair of kitbashed Techmarine gunners fresh from training on Mars. All I've done is change the barrels with some plasticard as the stock barrels don't look like they're capable of firing ordnance. These are not glued together at all, not even to their bases, which is why they may look a little wobbly. http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj598/Mjolnir771/P1010777_zps3937a1cf.jpg http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj598/Mjolnir771/P1010775_zpsc02ca55f.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3471315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSong7007 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Here is the one I painted up with a kit bashed techmarine. I added some purity seals from the 'ole bits box plus a radar dish on the back from a rhino kit (i think). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3472023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Zinge industries modular tank treads system http://zinge.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=25 I have no hands on experience with these, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3478662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Damn those things are expensive! A pair of treads costs more than the whole Mantic Cannon option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3478716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 ok yeah I like those thunderfire cannons you got there...I might steal the idea haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3479322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 hmm now i want a mantic cannon :) good price too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3481013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 I'd have to find a way to remove that chair from the model, though. Looks awfully goofy just sitting there empty. Or I suppose it could be filled with a legless servitor cabled right into the machine...hm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3481117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 How about a pair of biker legs? Or maybe replace the seat base with an attack biker seat? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3481985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 If you remove the blast shield the Mantic dwarf cannon should look like a really good TFC. It's really hard to find images of it without the shield though. Hmm, found these if they are any good: I also found to helpful scaling shots: http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/chromedog/IMGP0165.jpg During my searches, it seems that a number of SM players *do* actually use these as TFC already! That was one of mine. It got used by a chew-toy by a rottweiller, since. Like half of that SM army (I got tired of playing one-up-the-last-codex and gave them to my nephew to play with. He used them as chewthings for their dog. shrug.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3484277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelarion Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Why not cannibalise the treads of an ork Wartrakk or Warbike? Quick ebay search brings up enough results. EDIT Or how about the cyclops demo vehicle:http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/Cyclops2.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280339-thunderfire-counts-as/page/3/#findComment-3484577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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