MagicMan Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Been struggling with making this look good for a while. Does anyone know of any good tutorials? I can paint metal fine, but the curvy power armour is giving me a headache... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorDaemon Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm confused, if you can paint metal fine, are you just looking for a more effective method? If so, what are you doing at the moment so we can go from there? I did discover a brand called "Model Master". It is enamel paint, basically just means it is oil based not water, not a big deal. But I use the metallics they have because it actually produces a reflective chrome, not just glittery or glossy. I use it for when I want a brighter, shinier silver or gold. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3464584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Using the GW metallics (the best yet) and their washes, I can get very nice results, easily.What exactly difficulties are you having painting metal? Maybe you mean Non-metallic metal? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3464592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsoulless Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I dont know what issues your having.. When I got really into painting I started noticing my Metals starting looking Thick or Flat compared to the rest of the model. Because of that I started looking into NMM Techniques((I Googled a lot)), and Even if you dont plan to use nmm EVER, I think everyone should Learn how it works... Metallic paint doesnt really scale well, and learning how to highlight metals even if your using thinned down Metallic paints came in handy for me.. Not so much what to highlight but what colors I should use to highlight with, and how contoured reflective surfaces work.. my 2 cents Hope that helps, and or makes any sense.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3464630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 What I have been testing with metallics is to use the NMM technique with metallic pigments (you can see it on the power swords of my PH Ultramarines). You basically follow the teachings of the NMM but just using a base metallic colour, black wash mixed with watered down black paint and a silvery metal for the highlighting. So far IMO its bets looking metallics I have ever done, perfect for really shining metals. Basically, I think its what Zsoulles said... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3464649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yeah, the question is kinda unclear, man. Maybe try a better description, and possibly a pic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3464681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I second the GW metallics, they are great! I struggled to paint metallic armour, but I pretty much painted power armour as I would in any other colour, with highlights and shading, and a wash (mixing agrax and nightshade is good) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3464740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Army Painter Gunmetal or Plate Mail Metal silver sprays and then using the right colored glaze or mixing your own glaze would be my suggestion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3464810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Hah, sorry. I didn't phrase the question very well. Basically im having trouble highlighting the curved power armour and making it look good. Im edge highlighting in all the places i would if painting it say blue or black or red, but with metallics it comes off as looking strange. Particuarly on the legs/shoulders, its not coming out right. Heres some pictures of what i mean... Any help would be sweet. P.S. The gold is only a single basecoat, which is why its flat. But i dont need help with that. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3465247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 ahhh i see, i would say, only highlight raised surfaces (so not the bottom of shoulder pad inners, or under the knee pad for example) and shade those places instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3465313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peredyne Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Edge highlighting on metallics for me has been a PITA at the best of times, and I tend to not bother with it anymore. My Minotaurs get a base coat of bronze, a dark sepia wash and a touch up highlight of bronze. My Guardians of the Covenant get a base coat of VGC gunmetal, a drybrush of VGC chainmail, a final drybrush of VGC silver, details in bronze, shoulder pads in black, then a sepia wash and gloss coat, Thelayers of drybrush really pop from the sepia wash and the gloss coat restores the luster of the metallics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3465676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yeah, edge highlighting with metallics is...ugh. There are a rare few that make it look awesome. I am not one of them. I agree with Peredyne- better to shade with washes and highlight with drybrushes than to do something as sharp as edge highlighting. Although I'm not sure how that will look next to so much color with very sharp edging. If nothing else, one of the issues with the metal that I'm seeing in the highlights is that they are rather wide. You managed fairly thin and sharp edging with the blue, but the metallic highlights are roughly twice as wide. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Something like this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yeah, edge highlighting with metallics is...ugh. There are a rare few that make it look awesome. I am not one of them. I agree with Peredyne- better to shade with washes and highlight with drybrushes than to do something as sharp as edge highlighting. Although I'm not sure how that will look next to so much color with very sharp edging. If nothing else, one of the issues with the metal that I'm seeing in the highlights is that they are rather wide. You managed fairly thin and sharp edging with the blue, but the metallic highlights are roughly twice as wide. Yeah.. They're so wide because theres two layers of highlight there. A mid range metal, and a very bright metal, but they sort of blend into one fat band. Which isn't great... @ Heathens Is yours painted: Dark Metal Wash Edge Highlight Just guessing from looking at it. I think i made the mistake of trying for a mid tone highlight, like i would do with a colour. Which doesn't seem to work so well for metals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
La'zaro Khan Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm not sure if it's your lighting on the metallic areas or an actual issue, but I think your problem is exacerbated by poor wash control. I'm not a big fan of edge highlighting to begin with, but I notice a few spots where it seems a wash has pooled and you have inappropriately dark areas as a result. The leg for example has what appear to be bands of dark directly between your highlight and your midtone, ruining the illusion. Similarly, it looks like a dark spot right at the curve of the shoulderpad where it would be most reflective of light. I'd try to even your washes into a nice glaze if you're trying to affect the overall tone or limit them to the recesses if that's all you're going for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Thanks Lazarro, that was definitely an issue. Ive since gone back and touched up those areas.This was just a test mini, but i feel he's come out alright. And ive learned a few things for next time. On his backpack i missed the middle highlight stage, and i think theres some more definition. I haven't finished the model yet, but im fairly happy with how its coming along. Once i finish the next guy, ill post him up and hopefully there'll be some progress or some more areas for critique! I really appreciate it guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Try out P3 armor wash, bro. Nurgling6688 turned me onto the stuff when I started my Astral Claws, and I never turned back. It's a thin blue/black wash, designed specifically for silver/metal surfaces. Just use it in the crevices, not the whole surface, and you'll be very happy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yeah dude i've heard you mention that before (I think in the Astral Claws thread i made? Before i treacherously decided on Marines Errant) but it seems really hard to get hold of in the UK. If anyone knows a place that sells it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Found one. :/ Haha. Well thanks everyone, i guess ill put my painting on hold for a while until this armour wash gets here. Any tips for using it Heathens? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yeah dude i've heard you mention that before (I think in the Astral Claws thread i made? Before i treacherously decided on Marines Errant) I'll make sure to put a few Marines Errant helms on the bases of my Astral Claws then, and a few bodies as objectives for my Corpse Takers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Hah, you do that! Its no fun being an AC if there's noone to fight for control of Badab, right? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3466951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Oh its on now , we may be beaten but you'll get yours. Oh wait, you did when we stole all your gene-seed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3467052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 :( My gaming buddy plays Red Corsairs. I won't lie about this factoring into my decision. GIMME MAH JEANS BACK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3467056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Nah, we need them our legs are cold. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3467059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Found one. :/ Haha. Well thanks everyone, i guess ill put my painting on hold for a while until this armour wash gets here. Any tips for using it Heathens? Not a wash to slather over your minis, lol. Use it with a thin brush only in cracks and crevasses, and a little will go a long way. It works pretty well on blue too, so that might help. Test it first, it depends on how rich a blue you're using. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280383-painting-metallic-power-armour/#findComment-3467559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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