b1soul Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 You can also think of this as which planets would you least/most want to live on I think the worlds can be divided into general categories and opinions will most likely differ when ranking worlds within these categories. IMO... Tier 1 (Death Worlds) Baal: irradiated wasteland with cannibalistic mutants and giant scorpions Fenris: ball of ice and freezing cold water, landmasses rearrange seasonally, variety of dangerous fauna Barbarus: Sadistic alien overlords who practice grotesque necromantic arts, poisonous atmosphere, humans treated as cattle...this might just take the cake Caliban (supposedly): immense forests haunted by voracious warp beats (humans seem to live OK in the castles and settlements)...I honestly think Caliban belongs in Tier 2 Tier 2 (unpleasant worlds) Medusa: Volcanic wasteland Vulkan: Another volcanic wasteland Cthonia: mining world stripped bare and left to rot, inhabited by feral gangs/tribes Nostramo: Hive world steeped in corruption and crime Deliverance: Mining world, sucks to be a miner (kinda like Cthonia before the minerals were exhausted) Nuceria: techno-feudal world, life very unpleasant for Nucerian gladiators, not sure about common masses Chogoris: Violent tribal warfare and raiding, conflict between nomads and sedentary civilisation...but other than that, life seems to be tolerable (similar to medieval Mongolia) Tier 3 (life's...not bad) Inwit (it's cold but the inhabitants seem to have adapted quite well) Macragge Olympia Chemos Prospero Colchis Tier 3 worlds are all relatively civilised and stable. Inwit would probably be the least pleasant because it's an ice world, but life seems to be OK on all of them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Macragge is probably the best world to live on, and then it is a toss up between Baal and Barbarus for worst in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Don't forget that Dorn had the most cherished and happy planet - Terra, after that it would be Macragge... Bottom two I'd say would be Barbarus or Baal, however I think Nostramo would be Tier 1, sure it's relatively advanced the world itself (environmentally speaking) isn't trying to kill you, however everyone and everything is controlled by mafia-style gangs with those at the top more than happy to lose a few [hundred] thugs at the bottom to kill one top line foe. It meant that your life means less than nothing, after all if the only way to get ahead in life is to take someone else's life then that's what you do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Pre Fulgrim wasn't Chemos a bit unpleasent. I always got the impression it was a planet not suited to human life. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyMonkey Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Chemos was a great planet. It's was just old and run down. It had factories all over the place that no one had to use. I think the humans there had a pretty good time before the warp storms Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Teeth Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I'd argue that Prospero, until it got blasted, was the best planet to arrive on for any Primarch. Macragge had a long list of problems which Roboute spent his time fixing... Magnus was taken in and looked after in an already civilised world. He was never under any real threat and lived in what can only be described as a paradise of golden and glass pyramids.If anything there should be a tier 4 just for Prospero. 'Civilised' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Dragon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Prospero was just wonderful... except for the mind eating monsters that had pushed life on the planet into a fortress refuge... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Half of Inwit was in perpetual darkness I believe and it was cold than Fenris on the dark side since it was give you frost bite even through heavy furs. It also had death world level creatures living there to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Read Savage Weapons by AD-B if you haven't. Through the character Corswain you get a dose of Caliban is truly like. Ill summarize. Swarms of super locusts that leave entire town empty. Diseases that wipe out towns in a matter of days. Beasts that roam and destroy whoever. Demon at the heart of the planet. (Fallen Angels) Fauna that is entirely unusable due to it having poison in its roots or it actually being inimical to human life. So bad that the planet's population was barely at a sustainable level. It should be portrayed as the worst possible image of Black Plague Europe, only that there were real werewolves, dragons, weregelds, cockatrices, manticores etc running amock. That said Barbarus takes the cake. ------------------------------------------------- Chemos was a world with radiation storms where food was rationed and dwindling constantly and you had to get permission to procreate. Angel Exterminatus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Don't forget that Dorn had the most cherished and happy planet - Terra, after that it would be Macragge... Bottom two I'd say would be Barbarus or Baal, however I think Nostramo would be Tier 1, sure it's relatively advanced the world itself (environmentally speaking) isn't trying to kill you, however everyone and everything is controlled by mafia-style gangs with those at the top more than happy to lose a few [hundred] thugs at the bottom to kill one top line foe. It meant that your life means less than nothing, after all if the only way to get ahead in life is to take someone else's life then that's what you do. Weeeeell, yeah Dorn had Terra as a recruiting center but not his homeworld. And even so, Terra is no paradise, its an atomic wasteland covered with immense hive cities (and the Emperors Palace which if Im not mistaken probably covers entire Europe). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinholt Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I think pre-Vulkan Nocturne is probably tier one: you are on a flaming death world and having to deal with the dark eldar treating your people as a slave farming ground. It wasn't until Vulkan showed up that they fought off the DE and stabilized the human population of the planet (which still was never large), so he probably transitioned it from a tier 1 to a tier 2 in this ranking. When he got there, though, it's just as bad as anywhere else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godking Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Don't forget that Dorn had the most cherished and happy planet - Terra, after that it would be Macragge... Bottom two I'd say would be Barbarus or Baal, however I think Nostramo would be Tier 1, sure it's relatively advanced the world itself (environmentally speaking) isn't trying to kill you, however everyone and everything is controlled by mafia-style gangs with those at the top more than happy to lose a few [hundred] thugs at the bottom to kill one top line foe. It meant that your life means less than nothing, after all if the only way to get ahead in life is to take someone else's life then that's what you do. Weeeeell, yeah Dorn had Terra as a recruiting center but not his homeworld. And even so, Terra is no paradise, its an atomic wasteland covered with immense hive cities (and the Emperors Palace which if Im not mistaken probably covers entire Europe). Dorn homeworld inwit is/was an imperial fists recruiting world Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Teeth Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Prospero was just wonderful... except for the mind eating monsters that had pushed life on the planet into a fortress refuge... Fair point. Forgot about those... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Read Savage Weapons by AD-B if you haven't. Through the character Corswain you get a dose of Caliban is truly like. Ill summarize.Agreed, the Caliban we see at the start of Descent of Angels is after the Order has almost entirely wiped out the beasties, and its still not the nicest place in the world to live. I would drop Prospero down from Tier 3 to Tier 2, due to the mind-eating parasites that were mentioned earlier. I would say that Macragge was probably the least bad.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Barbarus was the worst, by far. I'd say... Nocturne was Tier 1 Pre Vulkan, and Chemos Tier 1 Pre Fulgrim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 OP there is no planet called Vulkan - it's Nocturne and it's a death world worse then Baal IMHO http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nocturne#.UkHXpD8romF Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Live Long and Prosper! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3473986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I would put Fenris at tier 2 and Cthonia as tier 1 myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3474006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I say the planets where the missing primarchs landed were the best. They were so perfect the primarchs didn't want to leave! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3474008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I would put Fenris at tier 2 and Cthonia as tier 1 myself.Well, Fenris is a death-world. Cthonia is just your typical, post-apocalypse planet gone to a few extremes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3474023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Don't forget that Dorn had the most cherished and happy planet - Terra, after that it would be Macragge... Bottom two I'd say would be Barbarus or Baal, however I think Nostramo would be Tier 1, sure it's relatively advanced the world itself (environmentally speaking) isn't trying to kill you, however everyone and everything is controlled by mafia-style gangs with those at the top more than happy to lose a few [hundred] thugs at the bottom to kill one top line foe. It meant that your life means less than nothing, after all if the only way to get ahead in life is to take someone else's life then that's what you do. Weeeeell, yeah Dorn had Terra as a recruiting center but not his homeworld. And even so, Terra is no paradise, its an atomic wasteland covered with immense hive cities (and the Emperors Palace which if Im not mistaken probably covers entire Europe). Dorn homeworld inwit is/was an imperial fists recruiting world I thought the IF recruited from Terra mostly? But my point still stands: I would rather live on Fenris than on Terra in the 31st - 41st Millenium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3474042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 They recruit from Inwit to according to Crimson Fist. After the heresy they have sole access to recruiting from Terra and then draw from places like Necromunda and any other world they rescue etc They only make chapels on these worlds though, and don't take over the planet's affairs or take tithes from it apart from perspective initiates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3474049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Barbarus feels pretty atrocious. Might be the one I'd pick last for a trip in the Galaxy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3474330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Chemos was a great planet. It's was just old and run down. It had factories all over the place that no one had to use. I think the humans there had a pretty good time before the warp storms Ahh must have built up a crapness in my head. So Fulgrim just did up Chemos. Prospero was just wonderful... except for the mind eating monsters that had pushed life on the planet into a fortress refuge... Lol, does take the shine off the Prospero holiday brochure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3474339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Living on Barbarus seems about equivalent to living in the laboratory of doctor Satan, if the upstairs was filled with poison and there was no escape. Winner for absolute most :cuss upbringing ever. Condolences Mortarion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280844-rank-the-primarch-homeworlds-from-least-to-most-pleasant/#findComment-3474474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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