Blood Angels Supplements?

[The Red Thirst]

Morning Brothers, i know theres a few 6th edition codex threads going on at the moment but for this one id like to focus on what future supplements you, as loyal sons of sanguinius, would like to see for our 6th edition codex?

 

Seeing as how the supplements are mainly fluff focused with small changes to rules id personally like to see a Flesh Tearers supplement, it would be worth it just just some new artwork alone and possibly more character miniatures and rules, Chaplain Apollos / Carnarvon anyone?

[Nemisor]

i would love this too.

but i dont think we will see one untill we have a codex that can be use............ahh a codex in line with 6th ed.

[Unbreakable]

I would love to see a Flesh Tearers supplement! I have been hoping they will do one after the codex is released.

[Toomanyprojects]

Flesh Tearers are the most famous BA successors, so they're probably a show-in. However, I wouldnt be surprised to see others like th eLamenters being given a chance

[Ushtarador]

Flesh Tearers with assault rhinos aawww yeah :) Lamenters would also be interesting, but I'm not sure how they would differ gameplay-wise.

[Sparika]

If I remember correctly, Lamenters don't have a death co. and don't suffer from the rage but from bad luck. Maybe there is room for some rules. But maybe they are much more codex than BA.

[Calnus]

Lamenters and Flesh Tearers would be great supplements to get, simply because I know FT would be badass and I will be totally surprised by whatever they decide to do for Lamenters.

 

On the other hand, I think it would be cool to have a Knights of Blood themed Renegades supplement.  Those chapters who still fight for mankind, but are hunted by the administratum for one reason or another.  Kind of a Robin Hood scenario.  I think getting special rules for raw recruits, different allies, scavenged equipment, etc. would be pretty cool.

 

And it would give another faction between imperial, Xenos, and Chaos.  More fluff options are always fun.

[Toomanyprojects]

I'd like to add that I have absolutely no basis for guessing Lamenters :) no idea what the rules might be or so on, but htey and the FT are the first two chapters that come to mind when you are talking about BA successors. At least to me they are

[Entei]

I really hope that they'll create a FT supplement since we are pretty different from the Blood Angels. Would be nice to get special rules for eviscerators and/or other chainweapons, but no Berzerker-chainaxes thank you (:cussty ruleswise). +1 point for ccw for tacticals maybe? Also assault-vehicles would be nice.

I doubt there is a big enough Lamenters playerbase to warrant a supplement for them, they also got some screentime pretty recently in IA9. But it would be cool. They are one of my favourite chapters. 

[SnorriSnorrison]

I don't feel like Lamenters should get a supplement, and if they did, it should be for C:SM. When I first heard of them, they were one of the Cursed Founding, didn't have any Blood Angels-related units or war gear options and were generally seen as to be incredibly unlucky, and were said to be surrounded by an aura that made their foes pity them. They never cared for their parent-chapter and their cure for the flaw is apparently the tough luck described above.

 

Just include the 'aura of sadness' as a special rule for a C:SM supplement:

 

"Whenever an enemy unit is within 6" of a unit from the Lamenters supplement, it has to pass a leadership test with a -2 modification. When passed, the rule has no effect, when failed, the unit who failed the test reduces its WS and BF to 1.
In addition, every Lamenter unit has to re-roll successful armour saves."
 

There you go, I said it.

 

 

I'd rather see some more fluff on the less-known successor chapters, such as Angels Sanguine, Angels Encarmine, Angels Vermillion and so on. You know, famous personalities, background(they'd have to make that up though) and altering some stuff to justify the supplement. FT would be cool too though.

 

 

Snorri

[Phadeout]

I could be wrong but I imagine there wouldn't be much call for more than one BA supplement, Flesh Tearers would be the obvious choice (I did like the renegade Knights of Blood suggestion though), it'll be interesting to see which/if armies get multiple supplements and what the take up is though - ultimately I guess the business side of things will dictate the final number...

 

It seems like we are probably about 13/14 months from a supplement at all so anything could happen by then

[Sparika]

Kind of a Robin Hood scenario. 

Well, I don't really envision Robin Hood drinking villagers' blood with brother "tuc" (French name for the monk... :) )

 

 

I really hope that they'll create a FT supplement since we are pretty different from the Blood Angels.

What is the difference between FT and BA? Except the brutality.

 

IMO I don't really see a place for a BA codex supplement. I would even think that BA as a SM codex supplement wouldn't be bad in term of rules. And I consider myself as a son of Sanguinius.

[The Red Thirst]

Further to my OP does anyone think all the major successors could be rolled up into one supplement? It does seem a little unfair to have just one successor getting the spotlight. They could call it "Sons of Sanguinius"  (obvious) but that way they can include all successors in a codex instead of 1-2 pages they got in the 5th edition. 

[Midnightmare]

I think if we get a supplement it will be Flesh Tearers; GW like to do the obvious don't the? It will be mostly fluff I think, maybe a few rules (for being that bit more aggressive I guess). If that is true, then I will probably use it for ma' Flesh Eaters!!

 

I think it will be codex first though, which my guess is some way off so any supplement will be be a long wait.

[Memento Of Prospero]

Blood Angels and Dark Angels are already glorified supplements. DA did not get any, so I wouldn't hope for any successor supplements. All I want is to make Gabriel Seth do more, either have his own chapter tactics or affect the force org chart would be nice. Also add another successor special character.

[Unbreakable]

Dark Angels haven't had any yet. They might get one at some point though, who knows.

 

Supplements are all fluff with with only 2 pages of rules so its entirely possible. I would imagine enough could be written about the Flesh Tearers to fill one along with a warlord table and a few extra rules like tact squads with extra cc weapon option, chain axe rules and maybe being able to use more death company with out taking Astorath. They could also bring back the limit on amount of tanks you can use but maybe thats unlikely.  

[Calnus]

I don't think its fair to say BA won't have supplements because DA haven't gotten any.  Dark Angels (and Space Wolves) are pretty much their old Legions still-their successors are almost entirely identical in tactics and equipment to their parent chapter.

 

While I'm not too up on Flesh Tearers background, only having read what is in the codex, I think they are more divergent than any DA successor.  Think of it this way--you have at spectrum of succesors with differing levels of the Flaw for BA.  On one end, you have the Lamenters, you don't have a DC at all and on the other, you have the Flesh Tearers whose DC inducts faster than they can recruit new marines.  You could cover the whole spectrum in a single supplement (a la Sons of Sanguinus, with a shout out to multiple chapters) or with one or two very specific supplements.

 

Plus, Flesh Tearers are one of the most badass chapters in my opinion.  The sawblade icon just looks cool when done well.

[Chaplain Admetus]

They plan on fleshing out most armies to some degree would be my guess. Notable exceptions would be Dark Angels as they don't really have much in the way of fluff for their successors, and possibly Space Wolves, though they could probably do a 13th company supplement. I'd expect, if any, a Flesh Tearers supplement for us as they're the only chapter we have that's been fleshed out decently in the fluff, AND has had its own rules in the past (Index Astartes Flesh Tearers). Lamenters are a possibility, but I think we're unlikely to get two. Most can be worked into the BA book pretty well.

[Entei]

 

I really hope that they'll create a FT supplement since we are pretty different from the Blood Angels.

What is the difference between FT and BA? Except the brutality.

 

IMO I don't really see a place for a BA codex supplement. I would even think that BA as a SM codex supplement wouldn't be bad in term of rules. And I consider myself as a son of Sanguinius.

Well, fluffwise there's tons of differences. But I assume you mean what would be different ruleswise. I doubt the Tearers have any Sanguinary Guard left, and barely any vehicles other than transports. I don't think they use jump packs to the same extent as BA, instead favoring pods and gunships. From what we've seen of Amit(first chaptermaster) they fight really dirty, paying no heed of honour in combat. They also are alot more angry and less level-headed, meaning that they should get affected by the Red Thirst a lot easier. They try to avoid fighting with allies, since they easily get lost to the thirst and starts attacking them. And they are ALL about close combat, since attacking from a distance is seen as cowardice.

 

I don't really understand your reasoning, why would you want less supplements? They just add more flavour to the game imho. 

[Memento Of Prospero]

More supplements mean slow updating and more burden of knowledge. That's the main issue.

[Chaplain Admetus]

 

 

I really hope that they'll create a FT supplement since we are pretty different from the Blood Angels.

What is the difference between FT and BA? Except the brutality.

 

IMO I don't really see a place for a BA codex supplement. I would even think that BA as a SM codex supplement wouldn't be bad in term of rules. And I consider myself as a son of Sanguinius.

Well, fluffwise there's tons of differences. But I assume you mean what would be different ruleswise. I doubt the Tearers have any Sanguinary Guard left, and barely any vehicles other than transports. I don't think they use jump packs to the same extent as BA, instead favoring pods and gunships. From what we've seen of Amit(first chaptermaster) they fight really dirty, paying no heed of honour in combat. They also are alot more angry and less level-headed, meaning that they should get affected by the Red Thirst a lot easier. They try to avoid fighting with allies, since they easily get lost to the thirst and starts attacking them. And they are ALL about close combat, since attacking from a distance is seen as cowardice.

 

I don't really understand your reasoning, why would you want less supplements? They just add more flavour to the game imho. 

 

I want fewer supplements if they're going to keep going with the 'here, you can ally with yourself' nonsense. Makes an absolute mockery of game balance when someone thinks it's a great idea to rock up with something daft like the quintuple riptide list.

[Leksington]

I could be wrong but I imagine there wouldn't be much call for more than one BA supplement...

 

If they put out 2 BA supplements, I'd buy both sight unseen.  Am I the only one?

[Urauloth]

Lamenters didn't have a death company, for a long time. They do now, they've started succumbing to the black rage, which is compounding the general awfulness of their situation. (Imperial Armour IX)

 

I think flesh tearers would be absolutely ideal for a supplement codex. A few warlord traits and force org changes and a couple of special rule tweaks and you'd have a very fluffy force. It'd be great to have a supplement's worth of extra backstory, too.

[JamesI]

 

I could be wrong but I imagine there wouldn't be much call for more than one BA supplement...

 

If they put out 2 BA supplements, I'd buy both sight unseen.  Am I the only one?

I don't foresee a BA supplement, but I'd buy it no matter what.

 

You know what would be an awesome supplement, something to make a pure DC army.

[Res Ipsa Loquitur]

I came here to say the same thing, James.

 

Give me a way to build even a semi-competitive DC army.