Grotsmasha Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Grotsmasha: Model them count-as combat shield? But they already have breacher shields?... Im confused. Marshal: Sure, the space wolf chainswords are good, I have a few of them. But I think the chainswords from the MK II assault kit might be better, they have a les wolfy feel and I think they are shorter. I think Grotsmasha's meaning if you use them as either a Vet Tac Squad or a Command Squad, plus this way it gives you more playability for your time/money spent Ah understood. Hmmm, sure it would be an expensive unit, but the amount of detail options would be great. I actually like that idea better. A tac. vet. squad with shields and CCW could be a great bodyguard for a Praetor. Bingo !!!! This was my take prior to seeing actual Boarding Shields. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3479670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 Although, unless they changed it, according to Betrayal I cant give combat shields to the veteran squads. Can anyone pass me a link to the FW Betrayal FAQ, please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3480577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Why carry boarding Shields in the 500 worlds? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121218205707/warhammer40k/images/c/cc/World_Eaters_assaulting_UM_battle_line.jpg  Because, Khârn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3480694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 :D That is the very same reason why I thought "I need boarding shields" :D And that piece of artwork is what inspired me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3480748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpedpath Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 To this little conversation about boarding shields in the 500 Worlds i just say the same two words Khârn said...:"Our turn!"  :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3480775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Also, it looks like boarding shields became prevalent when the Heresy broke out because the Legions weren't used to fighting one another. There are tons of Boarding Shields in the FW dioramas this year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3480780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I thought that was just because they were awesome... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3480787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I'm thinking about doing some 'elite' breachers for my Xth with the Rhino doors haha :D get all that lovely detailing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3481128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 As to not start a new topic I just ask this question here: How long was the Shadow Crusade and did it involve the entire realm of Ultramar?  So far I know this: The Word Bearers suprise the Ultramarines at Calth forcing them to fight in the caverns on that planet. Eventually the XIIIth managed to break loose from Calth and form the Retribution Fleet and with that starts the Shadow Crusade were the Ultramarines engage the Word Beares and World Eaters on various planets of Ultramar, am I right?  Im looking for a fluffly reason for my Ultramarines to wear snow covered bases, so far Im thinking they deployed on a manufactorum world to gather munition and weapons before the traitors get to them, but the chapter sent to do this gets trapped by a force composed of both traitor legions. They then spend some months doing artrition and trench warfare, trying to keep the enemy from getting to these weapons manufactorums and waiting for reinforcements from the rest of the XIIIth.  Does this sound plausible? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3482018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 It does sound plausible - my question is which planet has the manufactorum/s and d'you think the conflict would stem long enough to last deep into the winter (if it was spring/summer) or would it be better (considering the length of the overall Crusade) to simply have them arrive in Late Autumn-Early Winter? However I do think it would be ace to have various units (drawn from the different Chapters) showing not only different marking but showing the losses/glories of different conflicts including a winter war.TL/DR: yes it is plausible and could look good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3482065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 I was thinking maybe a kind of snow/tundra planet. So its snowy most of the year but in summer it turns to tundra with little vegetation, that way I dont have to worry much about timeframe and seasons. I wanted to use only 1 chapter from the legion as if they were the once to get the order. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3482130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazzy Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 As to not start a new topic I just ask this question here: How long was the Shadow Crusade and did it involve the entire realm of Ultramar?  So far I know this: The Word Bearers suprise the Ultramarines at Calth forcing them to fight in the caverns on that planet. Eventually the XIIIth managed to break loose from Calth and form the Retribution Fleet and with that starts the Shadow Crusade were the Ultramarines engage the Word Beares and World Eaters on various planets of Ultramar, am I right?  Im looking for a fluffly reason for my Ultramarines to wear snow covered bases, so far Im thinking they deployed on a manufactorum world to gather munition and weapons before the traitors get to them, but the chapter sent to do this gets trapped by a force composed of both traitor legions. They then spend some months doing artrition and trench warfare, trying to keep the enemy from getting to these weapons manufactorums and waiting for reinforcements from the rest of the XIIIth.  Does this sound plausible? Are you me? Minus the snow part, but the recovery of weapons and Material are ideas I was tossing around as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3482273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013  As to not start a new topic I just ask this question here: How long was the Shadow Crusade and did it involve the entire realm of Ultramar?  So far I know this: The Word Bearers suprise the Ultramarines at Calth forcing them to fight in the caverns on that planet. Eventually the XIIIth managed to break loose from Calth and form the Retribution Fleet and with that starts the Shadow Crusade were the Ultramarines engage the Word Beares and World Eaters on various planets of Ultramar, am I right?  Im looking for a fluffly reason for my Ultramarines to wear snow covered bases, so far Im thinking they deployed on a manufactorum world to gather munition and weapons before the traitors get to them, but the chapter sent to do this gets trapped by a force composed of both traitor legions. They then spend some months doing artrition and trench warfare, trying to keep the enemy from getting to these weapons manufactorums and waiting for reinforcements from the rest of the XIIIth.  Does this sound plausible? Are you me? Minus the snow part, but the recovery of weapons and Material are ideas I was tossing around as well. Primarchs orders brother ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3482288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 As to not start a new topic I just ask this question here: How long was the Shadow Crusade and did it involve the entire realm of Ultramar?  So far I know this: The Word Bearers suprise the Ultramarines at Calth forcing them to fight in the caverns on that planet. Eventually the XIIIth managed to break loose from Calth and form the Retribution Fleet and with that starts the Shadow Crusade were the Ultramarines engage the Word Beares and World Eaters on various planets of Ultramar, am I right?  Im looking for a fluffly reason for my Ultramarines to wear snow covered bases, so far Im thinking they deployed on a manufactorum world to gather munition and weapons before the traitors get to them, but the chapter sent to do this gets trapped by a force composed of both traitor legions. They then spend some months doing artrition and trench warfare, trying to keep the enemy from getting to these weapons manufactorums and waiting for reinforcements from the rest of the XIIIth.  Does this sound plausible? Let me start with saying that yes, it is plausible. The Shadow Crusade was less long and more widespread. When Calth was happening, dozen of other Worlds in Ultramar were being attacked virtually simultaenously. So even though only a portion(granted, a portion that numbered 60% of Legion strength) of the Ultramarines were at Calth, the remaining forces were spread so far apart that either they weren't attacked at all, or were overwhelmed. It is also possible that they were able to repel the attackers.  The Ruinstorm only required one hundred specific worlds to be attacked, but we also know that Angron personally attacked several worlds that were not on that list. So it is entirely plausible that when the various World Eater and Word Bearer attack fleets spread throughout Ultramar that more than 100 worlds were attacked. Well, technically it is not plausible, it's a fact.  So yeah, go for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3482293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpedpath Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I agree with Kol... whatever Lorgar expected... Angron was more bored than he could have imagined on the voyage :D And killing some smurfs ALWAYS is a good excuse for a little break ( no offence meant Anaziel^^) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3484887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Maybe Angron just started listening to Alice in Chains too much on the voyage. Â Â Particularly Them Bones and Angry Chair Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3485021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Poor Angron needed a break from time to time Done, then, now I just need to work on the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3485094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Why carry boarding Shields in the 500 worlds? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121218205707/warhammer40k/images/c/cc/World_Eaters_assaulting_UM_battle_line.jpg  Because, Khârn. And every other WE.  What's worse when they have a shield to Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3485108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 What self respecting WE carries a shield?!? :o *shock horror* - Anaziel I can't wait for the fluff and some painted minis :d Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3485250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Delvarus and the Triarii Boarding Marines? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3485256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 They're 'speshul' Delvarus is the only WE not completely nuts haha - and hopefully will get rules for him and the Triarii in Calth :d Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3485331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 What self respecting WE carries a shield?!? *shock horror* - Anaziel I can't wait for the fluff and some painted minis Fluff not yet, still working on it, but if you havent checked it out yet here are some minis: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274838-ultramarines-for-the-emperor-and-macragge/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3485357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 They're 'speshul' Delvarus is the only WE not completely nuts haha - and hopefully will get rules for him and the Triarii in Calth You wish your snowflakes were half as frosty as these guys :P And that pic...AHHHH! The shields!! They do nothing!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281004-breachers-in-the-ultramarines/page/2/#findComment-3485445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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