Kol Saresk Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Also another thing I just remembered the new Vehicles of the Adeptus Astartes book allows normal marine armies to take the HH vehicles, including the Spartan. What?!?!?!?!?!?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3479982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Couldn't sleep, they are releasing Vehicles of the Adeptus Astartes 2 and he said that the marines could use these vehicles as relics, now whether he meant in apoc games or in general I'm not sure as it was very briefly skipped over in favour of the HH stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3479988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 God damn 40k vehicle stealing sons of (insert defamatory comments) Â Knew that would happen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I guess GW can't tolerate being outdone by its brainchild. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Which mean every spoilt little SoB out there will now want storm birds legion medusas and fell Glaives as "it's a relic so ill field ten" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I was quite angry indeed too.  I :cuss 'd about it when a dude wanted a fire raptor for 40k and then tried to tell me I was a bad person.   They'zz stealin' my precious!!!  Instead of hey, lets just make this legal in the first place and make legion lists legal, they just have to pick out the best pieces for themselves  thats the whole thing about why I switched to HH. Game balance (and fluff/models)  /rant over/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Well no one wants to verse me using a legion list so I have the shame as fielding my WE as &$@?!£€ blood angels :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Well no one wants to verse me using a legion list so I have the shame as fielding my WE as &$@?!£€ blood angels :/  Ha thats why I had flesh tearers because they aren't prancing fairys  At least Amit fought in the pits with Bloodspitter ("Everybody knows Bloodspitter' ;) )   They were a combination of Khrav magan dirty shots consisting of but not limited to: knees to the groin, spit blood in the eyes, tripping, lunch money stealing, and cockblocking at the club. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Trying (and failing!) to contain my amusement at you chaps! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Trying (and failing!) to contain my amusement at you chaps! You did at least say that you wanted boundaries between the games iirc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I said that I liked the existence of the fluff (and setting) distinctions, yes. And that I'd like (on behalf of all of you guys!) for Forge World just turn Horus Heresy into a game system of it's own.  Neither of those precludes me wanting your precious, precious sweetmeats.  And by sweetmeats, I mean models.  And by models, I mean... Actually, I'm not really sure what I want from the Heresy... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 @Disruptor: Well, here's the biggest beef that fluff bunnies like me are going to have with all Heresy tech being available to 40K. Part of the Imperium's schpiel in 40K, is that it has been on a technological incline for the last ten thousand years and they have fallen hard and are still falling harder. Â Now, I realize that there can still be a lot of tech that makes it to 40K based on sheer numbers. But if literally everything that is "Heresy era tech" makes it to 40K, than how is the fluff not being trampled? IIRC, the only Legions left don't even have access to more than one type of Land Raider because the designs didn't survive. And they're ones who are innovating technology rather than losing it! Â So yes, those of us who retreated to 30K to escape the horror of a happy 40K are not happy that the edge separating Grimdark 30K from Teletubby 40K are getting thinner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yep. I'm with you kol it's getting beyond the joke Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Keyaetus Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Any spoilers on the Castellax Battle Automa stats/weaponary? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Its better if you pretend 40K doesn't even exist and those people at your LGS are playing the equivalent of Fantasy.   Don't begrudge 40K players for buying 30K stuff, its all capital for FW to keep rolling out the goodies for the people who can't take having everything they loved about their chapter ruined in three lines of text. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I agree on the technological decline thing. But somehow, 40k Astartes have things that don't exist in 30k. It's a very weird disconnect.  But ultimately, new shiny will always rule my wallet. If only 30k had room for DIY colour schemes... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Stop. Please, stop. Tell me these are all lies. If not then I'm just going to have to give up my last shred of dignity and self-esteem and just build Ultramarines. (eyes widen in cartoon fashion) Yes, Ultras! 40K FOREVER!!! Shiny... happy... Guilliman, I choose YOU!!! (kill meeeeee) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Actually, 30K can. Nothing says there cannot be variant colo schemes within a Legion, as far as I know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Actually, 30K can. Nothing says there cannot be variant colo schemes within a Legion, as far as I know. Â Hmm... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Â Actually, 30K can. Nothing says there cannot be variant colo schemes within a Legion, as far as I know. Â Hmm... Â Time to start working on Legions II and XI... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Time to start working on Legions II and XI... Â No, no, there are some things you just don't do. Â I may be a monster, but I will not cross that line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Time to start working on Legions II and XI... No, no, there are some things you just don't do. I may be a monster, but I will not cross that line. How can you be so sure it is a line if you don't cross it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You're right. Maybe it's a fence, a wall, a moat, no man's land, a cliff or anything else you shouldn't try to cross. :p  We get leeway in how we paint our colors. The shades, the markings. Other than that, likely it is in pauldrons, shields or banners. Places where personal heraldries can be placed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Actually, 30K can. Nothing says there cannot be variant colo schemes within a Legion, as far as I know. I'm personally of the belief that all of the 2nd founding chapter icons were company/chapter/special organization nicknames and  heraldry that marines would wear in addition to their legion icon.  So nothing wrong with making an army like, the Ultramarine 21st Company "The Praetors of Orpheus" or the Raven Guard 8th Company "The Black Guard" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 It is entirely possible, though some like the Raven Guard, Iron Hands, Space Wolves or White Scars definitely didn't. Fist, both Angels and the Ultras, probably likely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281137-additional-info-i-got-from-gamesday/page/2/#findComment-3480094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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