GodEmperorOfMankind Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Hi Guys, I'm looking at getting either a Storm Eagle or a Caestus assault ram. Which one to get though? Or should I wait for the new Dread claw? I want to carry troops (both marines and termies) But that's not the only reason I want one, firepower is also a consideration, but predominately I want it to look cool. Initially I was thinking of a caestus, but the Eagle is also pulling at my wallet. So guys, which do you prefer and why? EDIT: I literally posted this then realised that the Caestus is heavy support, but apart from that point, my question still stands Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'd say look to which Legion/s you're doing, will it fit the aesthetic of the army as a whole? Will it fit your gaming style? I'm personally going for 2 Eagle's as my FA with a Skyhunter squad as well for fast non-flyer firepower, this also fits with my Xth Legion terminator army and my intended play style of hammering everything at range with armoured vehicles and tanks then slaughtering the remnants in CC. I'd say look to which Legion/s you're doing, will it fit the aesthetic of the army as a whole? Will it fit your gaming style? I'm personally going for 2 Eagle's as my FA with a Skyhunter squad as well for fast non-flyer firepower, this also fits with my Xth Legion terminator army and my intended play style of hammering everything at range with armoured vehicles and tanks then slaughtering the remnants in CC. Plus eagle's DO look nice :p but so does the caustus :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3482073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 "intended play style of hammering everything at range with armoured vehicles and tanks then slaughtering the remnants in CC" Surely you would be better off with a Caestus then? Afterall they are flying tanks ;) It'll most likely be for my Iron Warriors legion. I did think if I took a Storm eagle I can use it in 40k for my IW's as well. I'm also considering either an EC or SoH allied detachment, if I did EC then I'd want a skyhunter squadron and use the DA's Ravenwing master Jetbike model so I'd have to take a Caestus (or start a whole other legion) If I did SoH they'd be first company with reavers and justaerin (and Abby) so maybe a Dreadclaw would be best? I really can't decide, hence me asking you guys :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3482095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 you can use the Caestus in 40k as well, I'm intending on getting one for my wolves force :D a Dreadclaw would be nice admittedly - though checking through my copy of Betrayal I can't find the rules (unless ofcs I'm blind), and the Kharybdiss comes out with Extinction [book 3] and looks like it will be an awesome boarding torpedo-come-heavy delivery system :D personally what style warfare do you play currently? would you want to stick with this or go in the opposite direction? My wolves are very much a counter-thrust force, I hold back with heavy weapons fire and let the enemy come to me, then when they charge me I paste them with lots of weaponry, receive the charge and hopefully hit back hard enough to make them flee or to hold them in melee where I tend to win. My Iron Hands will be much more about using fast, manoeuvrable firepower (Vindicators, Spartans and Typhons) to crush the worst enemy fire (plasmas, lascannons and power weapons), then my terminators stream out to crush any remaining opposition in close combat - so both quite similar (the final deathblow almost always comes in CC), they differ where my wolves will hold back and receive, my iron hands will walk into the fire and force the combat :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3482373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Chaos can't use the Caestus in 40k though can they? Dreadclaw is a dedicated transport option for a SoH army. I can't wait for book 3 at easter! will be sorely tempted to buy all the resin then :P I play Iron Warriors, so all about the seige warefare and assaulting the breach. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3482496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Ahh I've only ever played a purist berserker force for chaos haha - hope they do have the Caestus :) In that case go for Breachers as your troops, backed up by Terminators, Support Squads and Destroyers - plus the GD IWs had at least a couple wielding TH/SS type weaponry :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3482821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I went with 6 jet bikes with multi meltas because I'm a Dark Angel and love my jet bikes. However the Storm Eagle is a very versatile fighter and transport. The Ram is nice but has very limited anti air Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3483392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Can you have 6 bikes with MM? Thought it was 1 every 3? I'm planing on a jetbike squadron myself, probably as part of an EC detachment. The more I look at it the more I think I'd be better off with a stormeagle, which is a shame as I really like the caestus, flying tanks ftw! I may have to get both Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3484145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I've got to check but I'm sure that you can any/all packing whatever heavy weapon you want - whether that's the supreme anti-tank MMs or anti-horde (got to try this vs Nids or Orks haha) Volkite Culverins. Also good choice imo. it gives you anti-air, decent transport and very good firepower for roughly the same cost :) plus if you run assault marines they can jump out without needing to hover iirc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3484155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Its only 1 every 3, however heavy bolters on the other 2 are still really nice! Tanks will hate you along with everything in between! The Volkite Culverins are just brutal on bikes as well. But for a flier, Storm Eagle all the way. Its very versatile, however it is a PAIN to build without tools. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Fire Hawks with maxed and kitted out Seeker Squads. Headhunting Air Assault Kill-Teams....aw, yeeeahhh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 can we get those yet? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Heathens you've peaked the curious savage in me - what be these Fire Hawks? :p Heathens you've peaked the curious savage in me - what be these Fire Hawks and how do I get them? :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 can we get those yet? Wouldn't it be worth waiting? ;) Heathens you've peaked the curious savage in me - what be these Fire Hawks? Heathens you've peaked the curious savage in me - what be these Fire Hawks and how do I get them? The new 30k gunship with the twin mega-bolters sticking out it's nose. Like an A-10 on acid and steroids at the same time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Fire Hawks with maxed and kitted out Seeker Squads. Headhunting Air Assault Kill-Teams....aw, yeeeahhh. I like your style sir. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I just had a light bulb go off. Thank you for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I thought the Firehawks traded transport capacity for firepower. If it can carry troops I will be buying one, if not I'll be getting the Storm Eagle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I hadn't heard either way. If that's the case, Storm Eagle, all day every day. Air Assault into your Rendevous with Destiny. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Perhaps a tricked out Seeker Squad in a Storm Eagle with a Firehawk providing close air support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 x3 Seekers, tricked out x3 Storm Eagles x3 Fire Hawks This is the Heresy; think bigger. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I prefer wing formations - 3 Eagles needs 5 Raptors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 x3 Seekers, tricked out x3 Storm Eagles x3 Fire Hawks This is the Heresy; think bigger. I'll add to this, x1 failed marraige x1 bottle of scotch x1 Sense of awesome by fielding such an army 2 weeks later x1 mail order bride/inflatable doll Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 x1 Single Barrel Jack Daniels, but hey, that's just me. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 x3 Seekers, tricked out x3 Storm Eagles x3 Fire Hawks This is the Heresy; think bigger. I'll add to this, x1 failed marraige x1 bottle of scotch x1 Sense of awesome by fielding such an army 2 weeks later x1 mail order bride/inflatable doll Welcome to Thailand boys back on topic... again Storm Eagles to start off, a Caestus or two and then get Fire Raptors for support Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Sorry to be picky, it's a fireraptor, not a hawk :) I'd love 3 of them though, and I'm in the process of buiding a seeker squad with combi weapons and a storm eagle/caestus will most likely carry them in. But I'm not sure it's particularly 4th legion style Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281265-fast-attack-what-to-get/#findComment-3485768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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