Brother Heinrich Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 When it comes to equipping our bikes with special weapons, what is better to switch out: The bike's twin-linked bolters, the biker's pistol, or his CCW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I was not aware you could switch out the bike's bolters. They're not separate wargear, but a part of the bike, as I nderstand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I was not aware you could switch out the bike's bolters. They're not separate wargear, but a part of the bike, as I nderstand it. Read the biker entry again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Â I was not aware you could switch out the bike's bolters. They're not separate wargear, but a part of the bike, as I nderstand it.Read the biker entry again... OK, just did. The wargear is listed as Chaos Bike, and the entry in the Armoury sction says a Chaos Bike is fitted with a twin-linked bolter. That suggests to me that the bolters are part and parcel to the bike, not a separate item that can be exchanged. Â Has this been FAQed somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minionboy Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Â Â I was not aware you could switch out the bike's bolters. They're not separate wargear, but a part of the bike, as I nderstand it.Read the biker entry again... OK, just did. The wargear is listed as Chaos Bike, and the entry in the Armoury sction says a Chaos Bike is fitted with a twin-linked bolter. That suggests to me that the bolters are part and parcel to the bike, not a separate item that can be exchanged. Â Has this been FAQed somewhere? Â Â Â I was not aware you could switch out the bike's bolters. They're not separate wargear, but a part of the bike, as I nderstand it.Read the biker entry again... OK, just did. The wargear is listed as Chaos Bike, and the entry in the Armoury sction says a Chaos Bike is fitted with a twin-linked bolter. That suggests to me that the bolters are part and parcel to the bike, not a separate item that can be exchanged. Â Has this been FAQed somewhere? Â Try again, start with actually reading the Chaos Bikers entry. Â "Up to two Chaos Bikers may replace either their close combat weapon or their bike's twin-linked boltgun with one of the following:" Â I prefer to swap the twin-linked bolters, Chaos Bikers have the advantage over loyalist bikers in that they actually have BP/CCW, so I prefer to keep that strength. Â Also, it's not like you can shoot both, so either you get to shoot your special and have less attacks in combat, or you have the choice of shooting bolters or your special (not often that you'd pick the bolters), and then you get less attacks in combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It's in the options for Bikers -Max-. Â I swap the bike's bolter out, means I keep the extra attack for pistol and CCW. Â Dragonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annatar Giftbringer Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I was not aware you could switch out the bike's bolters. They're not separate wargear, but a part of the bike, as I nderstand it.Read the biker entry again... OK, just did. The wargear is listed as Chaos Bike, and the entry in the Armoury sction says a Chaos Bike is fitted with a twin-linked bolter. That suggests to me that the bolters are part and parcel to the bike, not a separate item that can be exchanged. Has this been FAQed somewhere? >> I was not aware you could switch out the bike's bolters. They're not separate wargear, but a part of the bike, as I nderstand it.Read the biker entry again... OK, just did. The wargear is listed as Chaos Bike, and the entry in the Armoury sction says a Chaos Bike is fitted with a twin-linked bolter. That suggests to me that the bolters are part and parcel to the bike, not a separate item that can be exchanged. Has this been FAQed somewhere? Try again, start with actually reading the Chaos Bikers entry. "Up to two Chaos Bikers may replace either their close combat weapon or their bike's twin-linked boltgun with one of the following:" I prefer to swap the twin-linked bolters, Chaos Bikers have the advantage over loyalist bikers in that they actually have BP/CCW, so I prefer to keep that strength. Also, it's not like you can shoot both, so either you get to shoot your special and have less attacks in combat, or you have the choice of shooting bolters or your special (not often that you'd pick the bolters), and then you get less attacks in combat. I was just about to post exactly this! Sneaky ninja! Most of the time, I agree, you'll want to keep two weapons for close combat, but if you equip your bikes with meltas and don't intend to send that squad into CC it could be a good idea to keep the bolters, more shots agains weak enemies. Also, they outrange flamers, and twinlinked gives them a better chance to hit flyers if you're desperate and they present an AV10 facing towards your bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Â Try again, start with actually reading the Chaos Bikers entry. Â "Up to two Chaos Bikers may replace either their close combat weapon or their bike's twin-linked boltgun with one of the following:" I don't know how I missed that. I guess this is where I blame my ipad, flee to the Eye of Terror, and plot your downfall for 10,000 yeas... :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The Chaos Bike upgrade bitz mount on the fairing, like a Scout Bike grenade launcher. Once you've seen them the rules are obvious, but it seems like a long time since GW showed any photos of models using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Thanks guys, I plan on running 5 nurgle bikes with double melta and meltabombs with the aim of running up-field and wrecking vehicles/assaulting devs squads and the like. With that in mind it sounds like swapping out the Twin-linked Bolters is the way to go so that way the squad packs a cohesive 16 attacks on the charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 if your doing melee with your bikes , you should buy a power ax for the champion. one of the few places where it is actualy useful to have an upgrade on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 if your doing melee with your bikes , you should buy a power ax for the champion. one of the few places where it is actualy useful to have an upgrade on one. why's that? I'm not planning on launching them at 2+ targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Because A you will do challanges anyway . B its not 3-4 powers weapons , but 1[doubt your runing more then 1 squad] C t6 and 3A give you a good chance against the non crazy types of HQs . D +2sv tankers , terminators , MC do exist , having a power weapon as additional help to your melta guns is ok. It is fine to say am not going to charge those targets , but sometimes they charge you or you don't have an option to charge them or not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minionboy Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I disagree with power axes... Since you're required to issue a challenge, with a Power Axe, if your'e going against a Power Sword, there is a decent chance that you'll get killed before you swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 with a t of 6 and meqs hiting each other on 4 . you charing[so 2-3A from the opposing dude] the chance to get killed is rather slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Because A you will do challanges anyway . B its not 3-4 powers weapons , but 1[doubt your runing more then 1 squad] C t6 and 3A give you a good chance against the non crazy types of HQs . D +2sv tankers , terminators , MC do exist , having a power weapon as additional help to your melta guns is ok. It is fine to say am not going to charge those targets , but sometimes they charge you or you don't have an option to charge them or not . Yeah I can understand that logic, I'll playtest it and see how it works out. I was forgetting that they're T6, that changes the combat dynamic by making them able to survive the initial strikes they take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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