Emperor's Furor Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 So I'm close to starting a escalation campaign and we're starting off at 1k points, at the moment I have this in my list: Cassian Dracos Legion Tactical Squad - Master Crafted Power Sword, Artificer Armour Legion Tactical Squad - Master Crafted Power Sword, Artificer Armour Firedrakes - shields, thunder hammers Now the issue of how slow Salamanders are was brought up in another thread, which got me thinking about how I should compensate for this, but I'm not sure how as there's so many options, what would you go for? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 It depends on what Rite of War you plan to use since this is likely to have a restrictive effect. Outside of that drop pods are always good or if you need the extra punch a land raider/storm eagle/spartan but the downside being the massive points sink for them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Can't use drop pods or deep strike in any fashion, I'm using the Salamanders rite of war, can't have more heavy support or fast attack than I do troops (got two troops atm) and can't use fortifications. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Then it looks like it's rhinos for the tactical squads and land raider for the fire drakes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Hmm it makes sense although Iwas going to attempt to avoid rhinos and land raiders as it'll then just mimic my 40k armour and I'd like some difference in them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Storm Eagles and Spartans then although I think you'd be fine with Land Raiders since they were almost common in the Legions back during 30k Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think the storm eagles would give you both a good delivery system and some good anti-air ability, a spartan equally some heavy anti-tank (especially laser-destructors) and a way to have your firedrakes slam straight into combat, thus nullifying much of the enemy shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Aside from transports do you think adding things to cover their advance might be worth it? Just worried if I pack everything into one formation it'll still be easy to encircle and outmaneuver. So far the armies I know that will be taking part are Word Bearers and x2 Iron Hands there might be a Night Lords player joining to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 You could use some heavy weapons to deal with armour at range. Can Sallies take Devastators (can't remember heresy term for them)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Yeah but they are limited since they are heavy supports and can only have as many HS's as I have troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 What do you think of Pyroclasts in a Proteus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telhdrat Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Rapiers and Contemptor/Normal Dreads could also serve as ranged anti-tank and they both come from elites. But you won't really benefit that much from the Rite with that list since its's only the vehicles which get the 5++ and you don't have any melta weapons to get the second effect either. So I'd probably add some of either or even both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Dreadnoughts also benefit from the 5++, my HQ is a Dreadnought and he's a beast! :D I'm hoping the Pyroclast models will be out by the time I extend the army, so perhaps putting them in a scouting proteus may be a good way for countering fast elements? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telhdrat Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Ah I thought he'd have atomantic shield, but of course he doesn't as he's not a contemptor. Pyroclast in a Proteus certainly should work I think, they seem quite awesome. Can't wait for the models myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Would you buy a Proteus over a Spartan? Just looked at the prices and they are really close, have to say I like the look of the Proteus more though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 A predator talon maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 How bout flamestorm cannon dreadnought talon? with melta guns? Don't all flame based weapons get +1 S? Nothing says screw you marines like a S7 ap3 flamer :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 A pred talon would work - go for infernus or the multi-melta ones to go tank hunting, or a caestus for speedy deployment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3484533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hmm I'm torn between a infernus with a magna melta or a contemptor, however I think a Salamanders contemptor may be released at some stage so I might want to hold off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3488509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Plus the Infernus (whether you go magna melta or flamestorm) gets the +1S for being sallies - always toasty to get S7 flamers :) and it's likely that sallies will get two dreads (one for Cassian and one Legion contemptor) at some point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3488539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 I was going to get Ashmantle for my cassian, since he's basically the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3488549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Is the +1 flamer for all flamer weapons or just hand, flamer, and heavy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3488552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 Just for hand flamers, normal flamers and heavy. I don't think Firestorm cannons get it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3488563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Aww darn that screws over alot. Do a Heavy weapons squad all with heavy flamers in drop pods!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3488573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 They can't have drop pods with the Salamanders trait No deep striking allowed I really want something to cover my armies advance though since I kind of want them to walk forward like it shows them doing in the books etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/#findComment-3488585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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