depthcharge12 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Well poop. Maybe do bounding (leapfrogging) big blob squads or maybe boarding marines. I forget, if boarding marines get flamers, then definitely do them. If you aren't afraid of magna melta preds take 2 at a time since they are priority. Im just afraid to use them to not seem WAAC. If I had my druthers, I would take either 2 of the magna meltas or a 5 man squad of plasma cannons. I think your biggest worries are going to come in the form of rapier carriages, since thats reliably the only weapon that can take out Cassion. Meltas, chainfist, and missiles wont do much against him. I would definitely suggest a big blob of cataphractii termies with heavy flamers, as they can lend support and assault an objective in the way you want. They capture the whole attritional movement thing. If you are cool with it take a caestus ram (PAINT THE SATUNYNE RAM ON IT!!!!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3488627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 Do you think maybe I should get some rapiers for my supporting fire? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3488631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Do you think maybe I should get some rapiers for my supporting fire? Nah, thats not a good counter to other rapiers. That being said and with the understanding when I said rapiers I meant the laser destroyer ones :P the graviton cannon rapiers would be awesome in your force!! Think about it... 1.) It gives suppressing fire and holds squads in place while your sallies move up 2.) Due to the artifice of the Sallies they would have graviton cannons at their disposal due to constant maintenance! Fluffffffy!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3488691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 Hmm yeah, good idea, they should also have good knowledge of gravitational forces due to the way their home world is at the mercy of it so much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Hey was just thinking, how bout a land raider achilles for your bromanders? Its equipped with multi meltas and the special armor could be "forged by vulkan himself" just like cassion's iron dragon armor. Just an idea. oh and you can throw a 5 or 6 man tactical support squad with flamers in there to hop out and torch and capture and objective as the achilles trundles up :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Could you take a medusa battery with phospex rounds? (Need a spare consul slot) Serves as heavy artillery support and keeps with the fire theme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 I don't think Salamanders can use phospex, stuff like that and destroyer squads are not allowed I think. Not got book to hand atm, so can't confirm it. I'm altering my 1k list, I'm replacing the dreadnought with a praetor and a rapier with a graviton cannon. I figured it was to op for the start of a campaign done between friends. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I think you should ultimately use the dreadnought eventually since he is such a tank. I admit that I was frantically doing practicals and theoreticals with my army list to see how I could counter that if it showed up haha :D Doesn't he and all other sallie tanks get a 5+ against flamers, meltas, and volkites? I was about to put some meltas in my list but it seems a lot of people roll with armored ceramite and then the sallies show up haha The only way my 2000 point list could counter that guy would be trying to glance it to death with my 5 man missile squad, a lucky couple glances from my MoS ordanance barrage, or my Spartan's quad lascannons could only destroy it. My chainfist does nothing, I would never throw a powerfist against him.....just wow. That 14 av front facing is giagantic and the ablity to ignore meltas, melta bombs, and chainfists is rediculous. I dont know if it extends to graviton weapons too..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 I will add him eventually definitely, even if he doesn't have his own model I'll convert Brayarth Ashmantle for him. Just at 1k he was well OP as I doubt a HH force would have enough fire power to bring him down. He also gives 5+ feel no pain save to those within 3" if he's the warlord. Yeah they get 5+ invulnerable to plasma, volkite, melta, flamer, eveything but missile launchers and lascannons get a save. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroCampbell Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 there is no allies with that rite of war ae? could add in another troops choice then add Medusas/ basilisks :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 I think I wanna keep the force pretty fluffy, so things that burn and things that don't cause massive explosions since Salamanders like to minimize additional damage, I'll eventually add a Glaive though :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 It's a shame sallies can't use phospex, it is just a different type of fire. What about a scorpius? It has a sallie high tech feel to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 It's a type of fire that poisons the land and any living thing that walks across it. Sallie are about purifying flames. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3489991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telhdrat Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 If you are worried about advancing under fire, how about adding apothecaries to your tactical squads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Apothecaries would be pretty awesome - could even go for a Primus Medicae for the whole 'must save the few we have' feel sallies roll with :) plus gaining a KP for your own dead guys is useful haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Hmm yeah but they are an elite choice, atm if I go with the rapier and the firedrakes, I'll have have one elite slot open, so it would be either dreadnoughts or apothecaries. If I take the Salamanders Rite of War I can have pyroclasts as troops so that's ok at least. If I get a terminator praetor (already have a normal one though) I could move the firedrakes to HQ bodyguard. May have to reconsider the graviton cannon I guess, since it takes up a key slot and despite it being cool and fluff there's other cool and fluffy things I'd rather add than it and I have my heavy slot choices totally free to use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pyre Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 The FOC for Heresey lists 4 slots for Elites so you should be ok there. Really like the idea of the list, will have to see how it goes. I love my Sallies podding in and burning everything (who else could put 34 flamer shots down in 1 turn?) made me really sad to see the right of war was no deepstriking so dont know if i would take it sadly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Ah well if it's four I may stick with the graviton cannon then, so that eventually my elite slots will be firedrakes, dreadnoughts, apothecaries and rapier batteries. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 In the HH, when making your lists: IF YOU ARENT FILLING UP ALL YOUR ELITE SLOTS YOU ARENT DOING IT RIGHT!!!!! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 In the HH, when making your lists: IF YOU ARENT FILLING UP ALL YOUR ELITE SLOTS YOU ARENT DOING IT RIGHT!!!!! NOW BRING ME THEIR LEADER'S SKULL! :) Rapier batteries can be brutal - even more so when manned by Legionnaires - BS4 Graviton is very very good :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Aye, just realised that it's epic at taking out hard tanks due to not having to roll to pen the vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Yah, take three of those puppies to MAXIMIZE UHLTIMATE PENETRATION!!!! jokes aside have you considered a land raider achilles once you pass the 1000pt bench mark? They are incredible tough to destroy. Oh and how about the extra goodies Sallies can take? did you notice that you can switch out a plasma pistol with an infernus pistol? I think you can also take grav guns in tac squads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Yeah, don't think we can have grav guns in tac squads though unless I'm missing something. I did notice the infernus pistols though but I don't think you can buy them easily. On the issue of land raiders, I know they are good but I'm apprehensive on using them since I already got one with my normal marine force and I kind of want to go for things you can't get in 40k more since it's kind of the hallmark of the period. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3490892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 In that case go for some Infernus/Magna-Melta predators or the forthcoming Storm Bird thingy - or for moving heavy weapons go for contemptors with conversion beams and graviton guns? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281351-if-you-were-to-expand-on-this-list-what-would-you-add/page/2/#findComment-3492563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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