Maelarion Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Hey everyone, hope this is the right place for this, if not, feel free to move it mods :). So I've been thinking of starting IG, besides the DIY marines I received from my friend. I'm planning on making them heavy infantry (i.e. lots of carapace armour, beefy armour support). Think 'sledgehammer' force :D. Anyway, I was looking around for suitable minis. The Kasrkin models are cool, but unfortunately they're still metal, so pretty much a no go for large scale converting. I though of Vostroyans, but they're all metal as well. Then I hit upon a brainwave. SM scouts! Carapace armour! Plastic! So after a quick photoshop job, I came up with the below. If I go ahead with it, I plan on getting the canadian upgrade with respirators from FW. Comments please on whether the below would look suitable enough :). Cheers! Maelarion http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a612/Maelarion/HeavyIGmockup_zps6dd164f5.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I think they look great. Looking forward to seeing the real them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3492871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Yeah, those CANADIA respirator units look great But Its a nice idea you have I would say go for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3492921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankenstein_PhD Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Keep in mind that SM Scouts are still just a smidge bigger than Cadians, so the parts will likely be somewhat differently proportioned. That said, this sounds like a workable idea. SM scouts aren't a half bad way to do carapace armoured IG currently, especially if you don't want to use metals. EDIT: Keep in mind that you may be able to find cheaper head and weapon swaps if you look around a bit and are willing to use non-GW bitz. I can direct you to a few sources if you're interested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3492922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Victoria Miniatures just released some new rebreather style heads, along with a good catalog of other IG bits: http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/custodian-heads-x10 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3492958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Similar kitbashes have been used to make Adeptus Arbites gangs for the Necromunda game for years. Go for it mate. It will look great :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3493026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Victoria Miniatures just released some new rebreather style heads, along with a good catalog of other IG bits: http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/custodian-heads-x10 Ohhh, sexy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3493090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Keep in mind that SM Scouts are still just a smidge bigger than Cadians, so the parts will likely be somewhat differently proportioned. That said, this sounds like a workable idea. SM scouts aren't a half bad way to do carapace armoured IG currently, especially if you don't want to use metals. EDIT: Keep in mind that you may be able to find cheaper head and weapon swaps if you look around a bit and are willing to use non-GW bitz. I can direct you to a few sources if you're interested. This struck a chord with me, especially as the FW Cadian heads are not heroic scale and are slightly smaller than GW Cadian heads. So I did a test run (with the actual parts) and the scale of the Cadian head doesn't work with the bulk of a GW Scout. It ends up looking like a dude with a pin head. I could take a picture or two if you'd like to see it yourself? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3496096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraRich Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Just following on from Toxics post heres a real size comparison Firstly what you are suggesting http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/rbrewster101/IMG_0435_zps7d02d0f1.jpg This is what I prefer and have a couple in my scout squad http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/rbrewster101/IMG_0440_zpsf5e2a984.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3496244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelarion Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 I've ordered bits off ebay, so far a FW cadian head, scout body, and scout arms have arrived. Once the scout legs and cadian arms (for the lasguns) arrive, I can get started making a test model. The FW cadian head did strike me as being a little small. When I did the quick ps job, I didn't have much of a scale to compare against so went on instinct. The scout model with GW cadian head looks a littly burly, like he seriously works out :D. The one above with the unpainted FW head doesn't look that bad, although I may use some gs to raise the head a bit (as the bluetack in the picture is doing. Otherwise they may end up looking like a bunch of gym rats with no necks...although having said that, the amrour thickness coupled with those collar-tubes (rebreather pipes or whatever) probably would IRL obscure a lot of the neck. Cheers for the feedback and the pics guys :). EDIT In fact I think a lot of the no-neck look is to do with how far up the uppermost bit of the shoulder pads reach. Maybe lowering the arms would be the answer. I'll post WIP pics up when I get going! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3496284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I actually love the look of those cadian heads on the scout torso ever since i saw Xenobiotic's ones over on Heresy-Online: http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58718&highlight=cadian&page=37 i think they are on about post 370 in the thread xD But just a quick image of them (Xenobiotic's work, not mine!) I think the heads look fine on them personally, even if other people think they do look small! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3496418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 The FW respirator heads work great on scouts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3497762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Neat I might try this. Would look good as Stormtroopers for my hostile environment army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3497775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kales Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 i actualy like this look just for scouts, may try to get a box of both and do some kit bashing, dont realy like scout heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3497985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 A slightly smaller head on a bigger body would also emphasize heroic proportions (look at how they draw the comic book superheroes, the head to body proportion is juuust a bit skewed so that the characters look mighty). I personally think that the respirator head on the scout looks boss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3498462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Does anything think the Elysian heads with respirators fit well on the scouts? Interested in getting them since they don't come with any other stuff like the Cadian respirator heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3498922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr G Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Does anything think the Elysian heads with respirators fit well on the scouts? Interested in getting them since they don't come with any other stuff like the Cadian respirator heads. There was an army showcased in a white dwarf a few months ago that had used Elysian heads for SM Scouts, they looked fantastic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3499254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Does anything think the Elysian heads with respirators fit well on the scouts? Interested in getting them since they don't come with any other stuff like the Cadian respirator heads. There was an army showcased in a white dwarf a few months ago that had used Elysian heads for SM Scouts, they looked fantastic Sweet! Sorry wallet but Forgeworld beckons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3499831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Here are some pictures of scouts with elysian heads: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?256199-Black-Templar-Kill-Team-log Not digging it. Whereas cadian heads looked the right size, the elysian heads are too small and narrow and create the pinhead look. Considering that these are supposed to be helmets, the head inside would be teeeeeensy. And they somehow end up looking as if they are robotmen dressed up as SM scouts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3500056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Here are some pictures of scouts with elysian heads: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?256199-Black-Templar-Kill-Team-log Not digging it. Whereas cadian heads looked the right size, the elysian heads are too small and narrow and create the pinhead look. Looks like the size is ok but yeah I can notice the thinner look compared to the cadian heads. I think I can live with that though. I'm using Cadian hostile environment torsos for my troops and the elysian rebreather heads will help give the storm troopers a different look while keeping the HE feel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281783-photoshop-job-heavy-infantry-ig-using-sm-scouts/#findComment-3500058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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