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Gaunt's Ghosts is what got me into 40k at all.  The entire series so far is my favorite, Necropolis being my number one of the entire series.  I also enjoy Ciaphas Cain series and Cadian Blood.  Treadheads and Baneblade are great for those who love tanks, and who doesn't enjoy seeing a tank battle now and again.  I must admit I did not enjoy Dead Men Walking that much.  I felt it was being dour and dismal for its own sake, or to over emphasize it if you will.  Just my personal opinion on that.  

Of course Dead Men Walking is dour and dismal!  It is Krieg, they're not exactly known for being happy-go lucky after all.  Like I said, it is one of the most grim and dark 40K books; most others look like My Little Pony by comparison.  As a side note, I also enjoy tragedies like Aida or Madame Butterfly most.

I just finished Dead Men Walking. Man, what a depressing ending! Overall it was a very enjoyable read. I thought Steve Lyons did a great job with the material. The DKoK came across as rather tragic. Good stuff I don't know how inspired I am to run off and paint my own Krieg (looking) troops after that ending. Earlier in the book I was definitely feeling the need to get the lead out in my grenadiers who are featured prominently in the work.

 

Necropolis seems to be a recurring theme in this thread so I think I'd best try that one next.

Oh yeah, I know Krieg is one of the more tragic of the stories in all of 40k.  I just felt it was too tragic haha.  While I do enjoy the grimness of the far future I think it was a bit much for me.  It is very well written and very well done, it is not my favorite.  I suppose I also do not like tragedies in general which makes me somewhat biased.  I feel Cadian Blood was fairly grim and dour but loved that one.  Redemption Corps is not bad either, especially if you like to read about smaller elite groups.  

Oh yeah, I know Krieg is one of the more tragic of the stories in all of 40k.  I just felt it was too tragic haha.  While I do enjoy the grimness of the far future I think it was a bit much for me.  It is very well written and very well done, it is not my favorite.  I suppose I also do not like tragedies in general which makes me somewhat biased.  I feel Cadian Blood was fairly grim and dour but loved that one.  Redemption Corps is not bad either, especially if you like to read about smaller elite groups.  

You can't have too tragic.  Seriously, I get kind of giddy in anticipation for the endings to tragic operas I enjoy them so much; sitting on the edge of my seat to see the Dutchman sail off in despair for all eternity over a simple misunderstanding in Der fliegende Holländer or for Butterfly sending her child off so she can commit suicide because Pinkerton has abandoned them for an American wife in Madame Butterfly or the titular character in Medea completing her revenge by killing her own children to punish Jason for spurning her, and in a twist, is rewarded by the gods for it.  Mind you this is the same Medea and Jason Oll talks about for those of you unfamiliar with Greek mythology and plays.

 

Trying to convince me something is too tragic would be like trying to convince GW you can have too many skulls.  I mean have you been to the lobby of their headquarters?  Here's a picture:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Kostnice_Sedlec.JPG

Oh yeah, I know Krieg is one of the more tragic of the stories in all of 40k. I just felt it was too tragic haha. While I do enjoy the grimness of the far future I think it was a bit much for me. It is very well written and very well done, it is not my favorite. I suppose I also do not like tragedies in general which makes me somewhat biased. I feel Cadian Blood was fairly grim and dour but loved that one. Redemption Corps is not bad either, especially if you like to read about smaller elite groups.

You can't have too tragic. Seriously, I get kind of giddy in anticipation for the endings to tragic operas I enjoy them so much; sitting on the edge of my seat to see the Dutchman sail off in despair for all eternity over a simple misunderstanding in Der fliegende Holländer or for Butterfly sending her child off so she can commit suicide because Pinkerton has abandoned them for an American wife in Madame Butterfly or the titular character in Medea completing her revenge by killing her own children to punish Jason for spurning her, and in a twist, is rewarded by the gods for it. Mind you this is the same Medea and Jason Oll talks about for those of you unfamiliar with Greek mythology and plays.

Trying to convince me something is too tragic would be like trying to convince GW you can have too many skulls. I mean have you been to the lobby of their headquarters? Here's a picture:

(Took out the pic since I didn't want to clog the thread reposting it.)

Well, more power to you I guess. I've never liked tragic endings myself, I just can't get into them. I've never actually watched an opera, though, uncultured as I am...teehee.gif

I recommend Helsreach by A.D-B, it is part of the Space Marine battle novels, but it has a lot of Guard, milita, storm troopers and civilians with lasguns(the Dock workers). It also deals with the Guard air force. It starts out like a regular story, but quickley excels and by the time I was finished with the book, the only thing that keept me from ordering a couple of Steel Legion boxes, was that we might get them in plastic soon. Rather paint plastic(not FW) than metal.

I remember when Dead Men Walking came out. I like Krieg, but I choose not to buy it because of the author. I have read/listened to: Better the Devil, Death World, Madness within and Waiting Death by Lyons and the only book/audio drama that is ok is Waiting Death, I guess I have a problem with his writting.

Steve Parker however is a good Guard author with strong characters and a good pace.

For now, I am waiting for my Tallarn: Exocutioner book... yes I gave in and bought it biggrin.png

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I would also recommend the Gaunt's Ghosts series. I have read every book in the series so far at least three times!! Most of the other guard novels I have found to vary quite a bit in quality. Storm of Iron, whilst not a guard novel per se, is an amazing read and does have a LOT of guard action. Dead Men Walking I found rather turgid and didn't really enjoy it. The new series on Macharius, starting with Angel of Fire is actually quite good as well, featuring baneblade action, occupied cities, and so on. Quite a good read. The Vraks books are also a wonderful read and I would heartily recommend them! But the Ghosts novels are, in my opinion, head and shoulders above anything else about the guard.

I can't believe no ones mentioned the Last Chancers trilogy yet !! While not as awesome as GG's and the like, they really are a fun series, and my favourite scene in any BL book is in the second of the trilogy. For those who haven't read them it follows Lieutenant Cage from Colonel Schafer's Last Chancers as they perform impossible suicide missions, the first is a rebelling Imperial Planet, the second Tau crusade and the third is vs Chaos iirc.

 

Cheers,

Jono

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The lead Last Chancers character is Kage ;) Still not sure if it's supposed to be said like Cage or said like kage (kah-gay).

 

I really want to reccomend Kastorel-Novem and Taros, but... well... the Elysians are cool, but they haven't come out on top of a single fluff encounter, lol. Anphelion has some really nice fluff segments though. That one focussses on Inquisition/Marine/Guard interactions, with the Marines coming off as massive jerks.

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