Captain Semper Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/L_T_Poster_01_Start.jpg This is a time of turmoil, of brother fighting brother, a time when the truth is indistinguishable from the lie and only your allegiance matters! Now is the time to show your true colors and become a Consul of your Legion!Welcome to “Loyalty and Treachery”! http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/L_T_Header_01.jpg I find it often to be the case that many projects that start with great enthusiasm tend to run out of steam and eventually lose momentum. The result is a unit here and a unit there and, despite the expense and the effort invested in said units, they cannot be put together to form a proper army on the tabletop. So they are shelved and doomed to gather dust or end up on ebay in an attempt to recover at least some of their cash value.However, money concerns aside, it only takes a reasonably small effort to build a modest sized army, one you can still play a proper (if small) game with. The trick is to keep some discipline and not to let the project linger for too long, because new distractions will inevitably divert you to seek new endeavours.“Loyalty and Treachery” is a motivational event aiming to help participants to build up of their Horus Heresy armies in a reasonably short time frame. I would like to stress here that this is NOT a competition. It’s an event where everyone who sees this through will end up with a playable force and an honour badge to commemorate his/her efforts – see “Becoming a Consul” later on. http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/L_T_Header_02.jpg “Loyalty and Treachery” is setting a target to build at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in the next 3 months.This means on average 1 unit each month. However this is not a strict limit but rather a good way to measure your progress. Obviously the addition of a super-heavy for example may take more than a month to complete but this may be counterbalanced by painting two less demanding units in the next month. Also it is possible to work on more than one unit simultaneously – a tank and an infantry squad for example.THE ARMY LISTSAs the basic target of the L&T is to motivate people to build playable Horus Heresy armies, participants are invited to present a legal army list highlighting the units they intend to paint during the event. This will show how everything fits in the big picture and will help you to choose your units based on tabletop needs – not to optimize them for the event purposes.The army list will also help participants stay on track, especially as new toys coming from FW (or other sources) may distract them. Having said that though, new toys may present a better fit to your army or a better painting challenge for you and you might want to alter your list during the event. That’s fine but the important thing is not to lose focus.The size of the list is immaterial – points DO NOT MATTER in this event. You can work towards a kill-team sized force of just three units in total or an Apocalypse size army that will take Terra by storm! This is left on the appetite of the individual participant.Obviously the L&T aims to motivate people who embark on a completely new project as well as expanding on an existing force. So if you have started on a force already this may be an opportunity for an “army expansion” – just name the units you’ll be painting for this event and show us how they fit in your "Grand Design" (i.e. your army list). Furthermore, you should not feel restricted to a single Legion. Participants may build units from different Legions if they so desire but it’d be advisable to use the “Allied Contingent” rules in order to remain focused on a playable force.Of course it’s also possible to just do whatever sparks your interest, building units here and there and not bother with a playable army at all - it’ll be a missed opportunity but lovingly painted miniatures will never be turned away on my shift! http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/L_T_Header_03.jpg There are only three simple rules in "Loyalty and Treachery". PLEDGED UNITS: You must pledge to paint at least three units in the next three months.Each unit pledged must be a “legal” entry from an official list from a Forgeworld Horus Heresy series publication. This means that each unit must observe all the parameters of the corresponding entry of the official list such as minimum numbers, correct equipment, weapons etc. WYSIWYG should be observed to the best of one’s ability. PAINT QUALITY: It is expected that models will be easily recognizable as belonging to each participant’s Legion of choice but this is not a Golden Daemon kind of contest. In fact it’s not even a contest, so all painting skill levels are very welcome. Having said that, participants are expected to paint to the best of their ability – besides miniatures are far too expensive to consciously make a sub-par job on them! So make this effort a showcase of your abilities, no matter your experience or skill level! EVIDENCE OF PROGRESS: Participants must provide a starting picture and a finished picture of each unit they have pledged. They are also invited to provide at least one WIP picture of your project each month – just to keep things moving at a reasonable pace. At the end of the three months, you’ll be asked to provide a “group shot” i.e. a picture of your entire force so that we can make a showcase with the outcome of this first L&T! DURATIONThe event will start on October 15th, 2013 and will end after a 3-month period on January 15th, 2014. Participants can join at any point during this period but the earlier one commits the more time will have to complete his/her project. http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/L_T_Header_04.jpg BECOMING A CONSUL As an incentive, “Loyalty and Treachery” uses a system of “titles”. The title can be carried in the participants’ signature in the form of a small banner. Note that there is no implied hierarchy between them and each has its own merit!Now the best part is that there is no penalty for failing! If a participant does not make it, he/she will not be awarded a title, and that’s all there is to it…Honorary Titles:Legion Centurion: This title is awarded to anyone who makes the target i.e. to build at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months. It shows a serious commitment to the Heresy setting and participants should be rightly proud to wear it!Legion Champion: This is a title to reward output. Anyone who makes double the target i.e. builds and paints at least 6 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months will be awarded this title. The sheer size of minis painted certainly warrants this distinction!Legion Chaplain: This is a title to reward zeal. Anyone who makes the target i.e. builds at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 2 months from the time he/she declares participation will be awarded this title. This unrelenting single mindedness surely deserves the Crozius!Legion Forgelord: This is title is for the treadheads. Anyone who makes the target i.e. builds and paints at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months and includes at least 10 HP in their force will be awarded this title. Bring the tanks forth!It is possible that a participant may accomplish more than one of the above tasks and therefore to be eligible for more than one title. In that case he/she can choose which title to carry in their signature. CAPTAIN SEMPER'S NOTESI’ve always been a fan of the Heresy setting. I have seen the fantastic work the Frater here on B&C are putting forward and thought that there must be a sizeable chunk of our online community that may have an interest in the HH-specific event. The first indications from the recent ETL were very encouraging so hopefully people will jump to the opportunity to start or expand further their Heresy-era armies to fight from Isstvan III to the Gates of the Imperial Palace on Terra! All who participate may wear the following badge in their signature if they so desire. http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/L_T_Banner_V2.jpg Feel free to ask any questions regarding the event publicly or through PMs – I’m notoriously fast in my replies! But remember: B&C rules must always, ALWAYS be followed. So be aware of that…So this is it! Who’s brave enough to take on the battlefields of the 31st millennium? If you want ot participate please do so through this link: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281020-loyalty-treachery/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Im loving this idea, might help me get along with my Ultramarines with greater haste. I think I will join, I just have to figure out which units to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3493898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Yes, this shall be done. Bloody FW send my last order already! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3493926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Most of my squads are half painted and half half panted, can they be entered? I also have a heavy weapon squad, Phoenix guard and Fulgrim in the post, so I am in regardless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3493929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I jaspcat pledge; For the WE 1 predator 10x assualt marines 5x despoilers & apothecary For the AL 5x heavy support with missile launchers, 5x tac support with flamers 5x recon marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3493971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Wrong thread Jaspcat! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3493981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Realised that :/ grrrrrhhhhhhaaaagggghhhh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3493986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Since I am already in the middle of 4 different squads already being painted, I will not be able to participate without crippling my army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Bah! I'd love to participate; however, my army consists of two squads of three Castellax and one of three Myrmidons. No way I'm getting that done in time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm in and have posted the full list/amount in the other thread :) hopefully this will mean it will take me less than 2 years to paint 2000 points haha :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Of course I'm in, I just need to firm up which army to do next ;-) Edit to follow... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Quick question regarding submissions. With Massacre not being shipped until Friday 18th, are we free to put our entries in at that point? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 You can enter at any point during the life of the event. Flexible or what? :) However, since this is not a points-based event (but rather unit based) you are more than welcome to pledge units even before the book becomes available! You can even change your pledge if for some reason the minis you expected are not released on time... Yes. Flexible. :yes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 That is indeed rather flexible :) Do all 3 units have to be pledged at the same time? Need to dig out Betrayal now for the list of stuff to choose from.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Take your time.. Not all units have to be declared at the same time, but it is expected that you'll complete at least three units by the end of the event. Participants are also encouraged to show us their Grand Design i.e. what sort of force are they aiming for and where do their pledged units fit. Although this is not a rule per se it adds depth and context to the event... However, it is NOT compulsory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Indeed it's unlikely I'll be able to show much from my overall themed force because Night Raptors aren't due until well into January/February and Terror Squads are not even confirmed as models. Sad times :(. However what I cannot share from the paint table will receive life from the pen. Or laptop or in this case. Let the planning commence Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Will all your NL force comprise of the elite/signature units? Won't there be a more mundane elements? Like Tacticals, vehicles, Apothercaries, etc? Your call of course, but if you plan a force with divesrse elements you may use the event as motivation to paint the non-elite units... Just an idea. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 They will include some of the more "mundane" elements of the Legiones Astartes. No mundane is the wrong word, more the generalist that all fit into a Legion in general. Unfortunately I'll still need Massacre for points values so I can see what I'm playing with since I tend to plan out armies well in advance around a theme and go with it. Who knows I might be one of those lucky ones who seem to get deliveries days early. Here's hoping ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'll likely end up reviewing mine once I pick up Massacre - as I may add Ferrus and/or some Immortals or Morlocks :) but for the moment where I'm at is two LRs short of 2k :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 a couple of questions: -to become a forge-lord, you have to paint the minimum of three units plus a vehicle with at least 10 hull points? -does the three units have to include two troops and a hq? or is it a case of "paint what ever the hell you want! geez!"? will most likely put an order into forge world come friday, so i'm leaning heavily towards entering this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Hey Lokkorex, To become a forgelord you need to have at least 10HP build during the L&T. So the answer to your first question is no, the 10HP should be included in the minimum three units. If of course you choose to paint more so much the better, but if you go for the minimum three then these three must cumulatively have at least 10HP between them. Lords of War sized vehicles may achieve that on their own... You paint whatever you want as long as it is a legal entry. In fact you are invited to present your army list and just highlight the units you want to pledge for this event! This is by no means compulsory but it helps adding context in your effort. So it could be anything... Hope the above help. Keep in mind guys that the official thread for submitting pledges is here: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281020-loyalty-treachery/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Just a quick question, do we have to have one unit finished per month? Or is that just a guideline, and as long as all three units are finished by the end of the three months then we have completed our vow? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 @Wulox - it's a guideline, allows people to break down the painting time for each bit and feel less pressured :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 @Wulox - it's a guideline, allows people to break down the painting time for each bit and feel less pressured Cheers! Better get submitting my pledge then! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 ok, now i get it! i thought you meant 10 armour value, not 10 hull points. come friday i'll see if i can't order some FW goodies and join in the fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281843-loyalty-and-treachery/#findComment-3494936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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