Lucius Pattern Drop Pod and Bjorn Fellhand Dreadnaught

[WG Capt. Iagn Thunderclaw]

Can Bjorn arrive in a Lucius pattern drop pod?

[Rift Blade]

Yes but check the latest rules for the Lucius. Appearently they got nerfed. You can still buy the Lucius Drop Pod for any Dreadnaught(takes a FA slot) but supposedly the new rules do not let you assault the turn you arrive now. Waiting for FW to release the Space Marine book so I can get most(hopefully all but lets be realistic-it's GW--LOL!) of the rules I'm looking for 6ed in one go.

[WG Capt. Iagn Thunderclaw]

wow. that really makes a Lucius DP suck

[Valerian]

Yes, but it's the only way to Pod in poor Bjorn (former Great Wolf who can't even requisition a regular Pod for himself).

[Sohail187]

This had really annoyed me... the nerf grr.....

[DanPesci]

Yep, totally crap nerf. 

[ORKILL]

 Nerfed, yes kind of.... However, the rules no longer say that you must disembark the turn that you land. So, stay inside and enjoy an extra helping of armor 12.....then assault turn two. The LDP still has an assault ramp.

[Valerian]

Nerfed, yes kind of.... However, the rules no longer say that you must disembark the turn that you land. So, stay inside and enjoy an extra helping of armor 12.....then assault turn two. The LDP still has an assault ramp.

True, but that, unfortunately, gives the enemy an opportunity to beat-feet and get the hell out of assault range. Also allows them to maneuver to bring their meltas and other anti-vehicle weapons to bear on the soon-to-be-exposed Dreadnought.

 

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[Grey Mage]

This is true, and its a really hard nerf, but assaulting out of deep strike turn one was also a really, insanely, powerful ability.

 

Remember when BA Furiosos could do that for 55pts? Yegads those were tough times.

[Gentlemanloser]

It's still Open Topped, isn't it?

 

Then just shot your Plasma Cannon out of it.

 

And if anyone gets in range, disembark, Assault, Kill.

 

Then embark back into your AV12 shooting bunker again.

 

Ah, Forgeworld.

[ORKILL]

It's still Open Topped, isn't it?

 

Then just shot your Plasma Cannon out of it.

 

And if anyone gets in range, disembark, Assault, Kill.

 

Then embark back into your AV12 shooting bunker again.

 

Ah, Forgeworld.

Bingo! Still not bad.

[Nadir]

You can not do that. When drop pod arrives you MUST go out of it, and no one can embark into it again. Saddly.

[Bloody Legionnaire]

You can not do that. When drop pod arrives you MUST go out of it, and no one can embark into it again. Saddly.

Except, apparently, it doesn't have the same rules as the regular drop pods... so "MUST go out" is not a must... or at least that what I have gathered from the other posts. 

[Gentlemanloser]

 

You can not do that. When drop pod arrives you MUST go out of it, and no one can embark into it again. Saddly.

 

As said above, not with the current FW rules.

 

Apparently.

[ORKILL]

You can not do that. When drop pod arrives you MUST go out of it, and no one can embark into it again. Saddly.

Read the latest rules for the Lucius very carefully. It says nothing about mandatory disembarking....unlike previous versions.

[DanPesci]

OK...

 

so what you can do is this apparently??

 

Turn 1 Drop in, keep doors 'closed', benefitting from being in an AV12 vehicle, but still fire out as it is open topped

Turn 2 Disembark, shoot and Charge

 

??

That actually seems to be Ok if thats the case

Do you still have to take the 'immobilised on a 1' roll?

[Grey Mage]

Nope. Also, it gives shrouded to itself and dreads touching it....

[Warhead01]

Where do I find a  Lucius pattern drop pod? is it the same thing as the Drednaught Drop Pod on the FW site? 

[Wulf Vengis]

Yes sir it is the same.

[Sohail187]

I did not know you can keep the doors closed on the drop pods..!! golly gee wish i knew this earlier LOL. Can that be used on all drop pods or only the lucious. If that is the case i would love to try that with a small CC unit. 5-6 models to hold things up in combat turn 2.

[DanPesci]

nah its apparently only the new lucius rules that allow that.

 

Normal drop pod rules state you MUST disembark when you arrive.

Lucius dont. (apparently...i dont have a copy)

 

What ruleset is this in? The new apocalypse book?

Nope. Also, it gives shrouded to itself and dreads touching it....

 

excellent, seems it may actually still be a viable option then, so long as the opponent cant leg it away fast enough or bring enough firepower to bear to tear up a drop pod AND bjorn on turn one

[Castellan Michael]

The new apocalypse release from forge world as the new updated rules on the lucius dp. I was really bummed about losing the assault ability, but with the new dread-coffin of death av12, open top why not us it still.

 

I always say "I did not write the rules, I just play the game". We can roll with this! They still fear the wolf's howl.

[Grey Mage]

I did not know you can keep the doors closed on the drop pods..!! golly gee wish i knew this earlier LOL. Can that be used on all drop pods or only the lucious. If that is the case i would love to try that with a small CC unit. 5-6 models to hold things up in combat turn 2.

You can keep the doors closed on SW pods, because theres no rule requiring you to open them. However, the lucius is the only one that allows you to remain embarked.

 

 

 

 

 

Nope. Also, it gives shrouded to itself and dreads touching it....

 

excellent,

seems it may actually still be a viable option then, so long as the opponent cant leg it away fast enough or bring enough firepower to bear to tear up a drop pod AND bjorn on turn one

*nods* Its better for a dread in apoc, actually, because the pod can absorb a destroyer hit that would simply kill it.

[Warhead01]

Well. that really needs to be corrected in some way. I recall Dreadnoughts riding in Rhinos but their was a very real chance that it could "die" if the rhino was blown up. So where the downside to this not leaving the drop pod then?  FW needs to get their act together. 

[Grey Mage]

Umm... well... the downside would be that you just paid 65pts and took up a FA slot for a small layer of protection. You cant punch anyone in the face. You cant get the extra range from disembarking to give you a better shot at +2d6 armor penetration or a better angle after you scattered away...

Not sure why its considered a problem really, seeing as a DA IC can give his personal landraider a 4++ and enjoy a 2+ armor save inside.... just, as an example.