Help Deciding a Legion (I've Decided)

[Noctus Cornix]

So, while a Horus Heresy project is still a small way's off for me, I've been trying to figure out which Legion I wish to dedicate my heart and soul to for the coming Civil War that will rip the galaxy apart.

 

At first, I was most interested in the Breacher Marines, tempted by the idea of creating a Pre Heresy version of my Word Bearers. Then it was the Sons of Horus and the concept of a Catulan Reaver army. But I had to sit down and think to myself what it really was that made my skin crawl. What single defining facet of the Legion rules that stood out the most for me and called to me... Phosphex.

 

Say what you will, but perhaps Spec Ops: The Line has ingrained itself so firmly in my brain. Maybe I'm just sick in the head... Whatever the reason, Destroyer marines, most importantly Phosphex grenades and shells are what truly call to me. So I slowly took that as my primary theme that stands out above all others. Phosphex. Burn Everything... Its more important than the Legion I play. No matter what, I must have my phosphex, my rad weapons. It to consume my army. So I did some research, and with both their standard Legion rules and the coming of their new essentially Destroyer Terminators, Death Guard seem like the absolute obvious choice. Chemical Weapon Flamers (I can say they're Phosphex flamers. Don't judge me) rife throughout the entire army. Destroyers. Grave Guard. What's not to love?

 

The only problem that seriously holds me back from this option is the Death Guard themselves. I love the Death Guard. I really do. But halfway through the heresy, they are mutated, corrupted by Nurgle... And that's really not something I want in my Heresy army. I want them from beginning to end to be Space Marines, and eventually lead off to fluff revolving around the scouring era. Don't really want to do that with Plague Marines. I've already got them in my 40k army.

 

So, with that being said, I have decided that my army will be from a different Legion, a black sheep battalion that has dedicated themselves to pyre with the sole responsibility of burning EVERYTHING in their path. There is no quarter, no honour, and no restraints. They will freely make use of any Tool in their arsenal. It is my plan, and hope (Until I find some rule that gives me actual phosphex flamers) I will have my Battalion as a Counts As Death Guard, using their basic rules and options while still giving me the opportunity to wear the colors of another Legion... Only question is, I'm not sure what.

[Kol Saresk]

Well, no mutation kind of kicks out the Word Bearers, who could use the Ashen Circle as troops in the RoW if I have heard the hearsay correctly. The only Legions who really come out normal are the Night Lords and Iron Warriors. Maybe it is finally time to come back to the Midnight Clad.

[Luther - the fallen]

Indeed, Night Lords are the kind of troops who would use every weapon at their disposal, including rad, phosphex and that kind. also, Night Lords don't care what others think ;)

 

- Luther

[Balthamal]

I can imagine the Iron Warriors sitting back and shelling a fortress with radiation shells and phosphex air burst rounds.....cold, brutal, pragmatic. Perfect fit with the sons of the IV.

 

However being a Night Lord at heart may I point you towards the warm brotherhood enjoyed by us sons of Nostromo....

[Kol Saresk]

I can imagine the Iron Warriors sitting back and shelling a fortress with radiation shells and phosphex air burst rounds.....cold, brutal, pragmatic. Perfect fit with the sons of the IV.

 

However being a Night Lord at heart may I point you towards the warm brotherhood enjoyed by us sons of Nostromo....

And since Noctus wants Phosphex flamers, and flamers make awesome for psychological warfare, not to mention being at closer range than artillery, it sort of throws the VIII into being the logical choice. Come back Noctus, come back to the fold. Wear the Midnight Clad once more.....

[Balthamal]

We have nice pastries.....don't ask who what went into them....but they're still tasty :D

[Superstealthyninjafo]

You could do loyalist death guard, some did survive the Istvaan III massacre, specifically Crysos mortug who was the head of a Destroyer company within the death guard, so maybe having an army lead by him would be fun, and would still stick to your theme :)

 

:ph34r:

[Russ Brother 92]

Yeas... Loyalist DG would be good :P plus you get the move through cover and Mortarion (at least for the first 20-50 years...) it will be very good :D

[Olis]

I vote for loyalist Death Guard, too. It would be great to see someone create a representation of Morturg (one of the best new characters in Betrayal imho).

[Xwingt65]

I was undecided for a long time.

 

But after i have started painting Ferrus Mannus the Iron Hands will be my legion when i get around to it next year.

[Conn Eremon]

I'd say Sons of Horus. If you want to be among the Warmaster's finest, accept no substitutes.

[Durfast Spiritwolf]

You could do loyalist death guard, some did survive the Istvaan III massacre, specifically Crysos mortug who was the head of a Destroyer company within the death guard, so maybe having an army lead by him would be fun, and would still stick to your theme

This. Why 'count as Death Guard' when you can be loyalist Death Guard :)

[Kol Saresk]

Or just good ol' Barbarus Puritans who refused to bow down to the very warp taint that once plagued their planet.

[spu00sed]

If you want the grave wardens then it has to be death guard

 

A general scorched earth army of phospex rounds could easily fall to imperial fists or iron warriors

 

Iron warriors for their general any method to ruin the fortress and the contenent itis on strategy.

 

Imperial fists as they go running Into the scouring all messed up.

[Noctus Cornix]

Not interested in loyalist Death Guard, to be frank. Not something I feel I could get behind.

[Olis]

How about a post-Isstvan V Loyalist strike force? You can use a real mix of Legions with Sallies being the bulk of the force and Iron Hands/Raven Guard making up supporting elements (or any alternative mix of the three, I'd think). 

[Kol Saresk]

Sallies aren't allowed to touch Phosphex weaponry.

[Noctus Cornix]

Sallies aren't allowed to touch Phosphex weaponry.

 

They aren't? Why?

 

That completely cuts them from my potential Legions then.

[Kol Saresk]

It's part of their Legiones Astartes rules IIRC.

 

Disdain for the Dark Age – May not take a Moritats, Destroyers, or phosphex weaponry.

[Vardus]

We are the caring legion, no nasty weapons of mass destruction, well not ones that have dirty little effects

[Olis]

Erm... well... how about Iron hands with supporting Sallies and RG? 

 

 

(I really want to get a hold of Massacre so I can look this stuff up myself...)

[Vazzy]

I'd go IW, as it seems like a good choice overall. 

[TheForgottenAngel]

I would say Iron Warriors or Iron Hands. They seem to be very much up your alley. I just don't peg you as a Nightlords type of guy. If you like Phosphex you almost certainly want to take a Legion Medusa or two because they can take Phosphex shells. It will maximise the Phosphex effect and be absolutely brutal. I can only imagine the destruction wrought by 2-3 of them firing the initial volley of phosphex as your breacher squads slowly advance on the enemies positions. The boarding shields on marines look awesome.

[depthcharge12]

I think Iron Warriors fits the glove perfectly.

 

 

Want breacher squads? Well the IV legion made wall penetration their specialty, and sending "once more unto the breach" type tactics.

 

 

Want phosphex? What better than an Iron warrior siege breaker who carries around phosphex bomb(s) and can upgrade his Medusa artillery to fire phosphex?!

 

Who also doesn't turn all weird after the poop hits the fan? The IV legion.

 

 

I think your choice is clear cut :D

[Brother Captain Lucian]

This thread convinced me to go IW instead of DG...

 

Dammit release the damm Legion siege tanks..