TheForgottenAngel Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Oh and if you do Iron Warriors you don't have to feel bad about taking a Typhon and a squadron of Medusas. Ah hell now you are making me want to do a small Iron Warrior army.....must resist urge! Also I have a feeling Perturabo will be an absolute monster in combat. When he absolutely massacred the Imperial Fist boarding party I was terrified at his malice and shear power. One of the most badass tanks in the book. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Legiones_Astartes/Legion_Vehicles/TYPHON_HEAVY_SIEGE_TANK.html The Legion pattern of the Medusa is coming out soon and looks incredible but this would work as well! http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Guard/Imperial_Guard_Tanks/ARMAGEDDON-PATTERN-MEDUSA.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Yeah, Iron Warriors would be good enough for this, I totally feel you on the Death Guard. If they didnt get all gross and such...would be much better. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Forge World had a WIP of their Legion Basilisk. I can only imagine what their Legion Medusa will look like! The basilisk wouldn't be too difficult to convert either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 I think at the moment, I'm at a tie up between Iron Warriors and Night Lords. I'll do a bit more thinking and research. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 That bassie man, that bassie. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Noctus, you were born wearing Midnight Clad. You were raised by it, molded even. Return back to the VIII Legion you once swore loyalty to. Come back to the fold, and it will be as if you never left. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hell, if we're going to resort to psychological goading - The cake is a lie, Noctus. The cake is a lie. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 You know you want to field the King of the Battle!!!! Also Wolf P*ssy. If you know what I'm talking about, you're probably an artilleryman. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 can't do any better than some heavy artillery :D - roll up and see the show, AS90s and M109s pounding those mean Imp Fists and Sallies to dust :P - go for Iron Warriors... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Noctus, you were born wearing Midnight Clad. You were raised by it, molded even. Return back to the VIII Legion you once swore loyalty to. Come back to the fold, and it will be as if you never left. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. Part of the ship, part of the crew. *BANG* ...Ahem. Flamers, Phosphex, no restraints. To me, that gives you Iron Warriors or Iron Hands survivors. The IW are already known for such tactics, and Medusa's launching Phosphex shells are about the nastiest thing I can think of. A company of Iron Hands survivors would work too; "Hell hath no fury like a warrior betrayed". Cut off, alone, pissed off, and mourning the death of their Father. Sounds like the perfect recipie for what you're looking for, to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Got bored marking books at 9:30 at night so I thought I would throw together a quick scorched earth list Moritat Dual plasma pistols, artificer armour, jump pack Siege breaker Thunder hammer, artificer armour, boarding shield, 3 phosphex bombs Siege breaker Thunder hammer, artificer armour, boarding shield, 3 phosphex bombs 10 destroyers 2 missile launchers, 2 phosphex bombs, jump packs 10 destroyers 2 missile launchers, 2 phosphex bombs 10 destroyers 2 missile launchers, 2 phosphex bombs 10 destroyers 2 missile launchers, 2 phosphex bombs 20 breacher marines Vexilla 20 breacher marines Vexilla 20 breacher marines Vexilla 2 medusa Phosphex rounds This leaves about 125 pts for toys for the breacher squads at 2500pts You get here hard scoring squads 8 rad missile launchts, one with jump packs 5 dudes with phosphex grenades 2 phosphex templates Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 You can be an Iron Warrior, they're a great Legion. Bombardments, trenches, siegecraft. Awesomesauce. Or you could be a man, and go with the Night Lords. You know, the Legion that is fear incarnate, rather than the Legion that throws heavy ordinance at a distance because DEAR GOD, KEEP AWAY. The Space Marines are supposed to know no fear, but who else would light up the night sky with far-flung bombardments but those who fear the dark? Who else would dedicate themselves through and through to the breaking open of fortified places but those who fear the unknown? Who else would then wall themselves in but those who fear what they left outside? Who else would grit their teeth and pile undeserving blame and fault upon a brother Legion but those who fear their own failures? The Night Lords reign over fear. They have tasted it, caressed it, mastered it. While the Iron Warriors built great monstrosities to keep fear at bay, the Night Lords have shaped it into a weapon, from which no fortress is safe. The light of illumination is a torch carried by a frightened child lost in the jungles, far from home. The Night Lords need no such crutch. The galaxy is darkness. The realms beyond are darkness. You can not survive in it, without understanding it, becoming one with it. Take to its bosom, and let it accept you as its child. Pushing back the darkness is a fruitless endeavor, destined to end in blood and pain. The herd of prey learns to defend itself, but always the predators win. Which are you? Come Noctus, don't give into fright, to huddle close to the ground-shaking booms of large guns, as if drowning out the sounds of inevitable death moving ever closer somehow removes its source. Join us in madness, and laugh within the dark. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Or you could be a man, and go with the Night Lords. Thanks for making my day man, this had me cracking up so hard. I can be a 'man' by choosing the most unmanly and cowardly of Legion. Good one. ;) Top two Traitor Legions still stand as Night Lords and Iron Warriors still, not gonna lie though, that Iron Hands idea of your is sorely tempting, Heathens. So, I would say the 4 most prominent options for me at the moment are Iron Warriors Night Lords Imperial Fists Iron Hands Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Madness is the key there. The Night Lords are already reduced to infighting and fratricide, and we haven't even gotten to Terra yet! The Lion broke your fleets, and you scatter like the Raven Guard, scratching to survive. Laugh all you want, it is a false face to your weakness. Iron Warriors Have never been afraid to be up close. We itch for the breach, and throats taken. We just approach war as a conflict, not as a game. We calculate, we plan, we prepare, and we engage with the full intent of crushing our foes and burying them in shallow grave. You know, like real WARRIORS, not like cowardly half-men who hide in shadows. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Madness is the key there. The Night Lords are already reduced to infighting and fratricide, and we haven't even gotten to Terra yet! The Lion broke your fleets, and you scatter like the Raven Guard, scratching to survive. Laugh all you want, it is a false face to your weakness. Iron Warriors Have never been afraid to be up close. We itch for the breach, and throats taken. We just approach war as a conflict, not as a game. We calculate, we plan, we prepare, and we engage with the full intent of crushing our foes and burying them in shallow grave. You know, like real WARRIORS, not like cowardly half-men who hide in shadows. I seem to recall political maneuvering wiping out a great many Iron Warriors by the hands of their fellow Iron Warriors............................. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Thanks for making my day man, this had me cracking up so hard. I can be a 'man' by choosing the most unmanly and cowardly of Legion. Good one. I aim to please, bro. :p Madness is the key there. The Night Lords are already reduced to infighting and fratricide, and we haven't even gotten to Terra yet! The Lion broke your fleets, and you scatter like the Raven Guard, scratching to survive. Laugh all you want, it is a false face to your weakness. Iron Warriors Have never been afraid to be up close. We itch for the breach, and throats taken. We just approach war as a conflict, not as a game. We calculate, we plan, we prepare, and we engage with the full intent of crushing our foes and burying them in shallow grave. You know, like real WARRIORS, not like cowardly half-men who hide in shadows. Everything is mad. There's no hiding from it. The Imperium is mad, for trying to become something more than the Gods of the Warp. The Emperor is mad, for his megalomaniacal belief that he, and only he, could make a difference in a galaxy of madness. The Warmaster is mad, for believing himself more worthy than his father, when he is a lesser equal. The traitors are mad, for revoking everything they stood for in order to tear it all down. The loyalists are mad, for they believe that their stand has a chance of making a difference. The Night Lords are mad, but they understand that. They revel in it. Madness is something that claws you deeper in the more you fight it. The Night Lords don't fight it. You could say that they are the least mad. Besides, it isn't as if the Iron Warriors are immune to those same slurs you throw upon us. Infighting and fratricide? As if these are concepts foreign to the "warriors" of iron. Brittle iron, emotional iron. So proud in their unbending nature, until it shatters, like the spine of a cyclopean god. What matter of warriors style themselves so? Who would grant upon themselves a name doomed to failure? Warriors. What war do you fight in? This small, ephemeral thing, this battle over the dancing, flickering light of the Imperium, so near to its guttering? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 When? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 When? Angel Exterminatus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I must have missed something then. Political bickering, yes. Murdering the entire interm command team while a primarch is in a coma, because you don't like them? No. @Cormac: This is 30k. Your fear tactics hold no sway here. And the fact that you run from every fight legitimizes my opinion that your Legion should have been disbanded. Why waste material on once-men who won't even fight. You kill children and old ladies for fun *slow clap* congrats. Totally proved how tough you are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Were there loyalist Iron Warriors? I don't know enough about the Heresy to know this answer. The Iron Warriors don't strike me as being nearly idealistic enough to have loyalists. But what do I know? Iron Warriors are the ones I'd most likely pick up if I ever went the HH route. Followed very closely by Imperial Fists. Not that I'd go loyalist if I ever did go HH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 There are like three Loyalist Iron Warriors at the moment. And their leader is suffering from severe old age. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 They had one. An old man, and a handful of survivors. They serve Guilliman now. EDIT: Sonova.... Ninja'd. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 So, one thing I must confess is that I honestly never looked to the Iron Hands as an option for my Legion. I'm not quite sure why, but they just never struck me as an interest... Perhaps I was looking for some sort of physical flare, or maybe I was too grounded in the concept that I wanted to play a Traitor Legion, I'm not sure. Whatever the reason, Heathen's suggestion really sort of stuck with me, and so I started thinking, and I started doing some research. Survivors of the Dropsite Massacre, Once proud stoic warriors who strode alongside their beloved Primarch now brought low, defeated, Fatherless. The weakness of kinship and trust in others has led to their ultimate betrayal and their ultimate demise... What is there left but to cast off the weakness of mortality, of emotions? There is however one, simple, pure emotion that will never betray a Warrior; Hate. And that is all they have left to feel. Cut off, deserted by the Imperium with nothing left but survivors, there is only one thing left for them. There will be NO retaliation. NO liberation. NO reclamation. There will ONLY be revenge until every single world that flies the banner of the Arch-Traitor Horus will burn to smoldering ash in the image of Medusa herself. Hades hath no fury like a Warrior Betrayed, and there is no fire that burns stronger than his rage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Yes! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'd love to see what you could do with the Hands, noctus. They also have the best Primarch model to date, in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281939-help-deciding-a-legion-ive-decided/page/2/#findComment-3496437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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