march10k Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Yeah, if you're not using the assault ramp, the fire raptor is better...but 300 points for a steagle is a bargain compared to, what, 750 (IIRC), for a Thunderhawk. Seriously, you get TWO fully pimped steagles for less than the points cost (and half the $$$ cost) of a Thawk...and you lose...D weapon cool factor? Seriously, they fill exactly the same role with a slightly smaller payload (and no ability to load multiple units) at 40% of the points cost. And with dual godhammers and TLMM, yes, they cost 300 points...but they can make back half of that on arrival by smoking one average tank (or an aircraft...two S9 and one melta hit? That's insta-gib territory!). The flying transport with capacity for 10 termies plus the pieplate definitely justify the other 150 points...but, yeah, if you're not using the transport function, definitely go for the fire raptor. It looks amazing (I'm not a fan of the vengeance launcher being mounted on the back of the roof...it just doesn't make sense in that location!), and it oozes firepower. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3500242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 I need to start sketching a nice design for it at some point. Not sure if I should wait until after I've made some black knights though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3500837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Master Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Just finished building the one I picked up at Games Day. Model is worth every penny! Keep meaning to ask, how was it to put together? I hear the Storm Eagle can be a chew. DM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3506899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 March10k can you post a picture of this vengeance launcher? I'm drawing a blank as to what you're referring to Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3507041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Vengeance Launchers are the missile racks on the top of the Storm Eagle.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3507064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Ah, thank you for the clarification disruptor! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3507071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 No problem! That extra full stop in my previous comment makes it look like I'm getting all internet-rhetorical, but I wasn't! On-topic, I'm quite a fan of the Fire Raptor. Not only is it priced competitively with the Storm Raven (pretty much my measuring stick for power armour flyers), it doesn't have a transport capacity, so I don't feel that I'm 'over-paying' for it by not taking another expensive unit to sit inside it. Autocannons in the turrest for me, being able to take down other flyers is more appealing to me than strafing some infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3507079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Dark_Master the model was great to build. Only problems was the side panel was warped which is to be expected. And the independent turret doesn't have the most durable fixing. Hope that helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3507286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I love the autocannon turrets in concept, but the barrels are comically long in practice. I'd have to stick with the HB just for the sake of aesthetics, although I'd probably ask my opponents for "counts as" permissions! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3508456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Ironwithout will you be uploading pics of this glorious beast of a flyer to the B&C? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3508463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Ironwithout will you be uploading pics of this glorious beast of a flyer to the B&C? In the interest of keeping the thread nice and tidy I have posted some pics in this thread already. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281895-fire-raptor-experimental-rules/page-2 Scroll further down the thread for more. It will be getting painted for my Angels of Redemption as part of the tale of 16 gamers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3508991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Ironwithout will you be uploading pics of this glorious beast of a flyer to the B&C? In the interest of keeping the thread nice and tidy I have posted some pics in this thread already. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281895-fire-raptor-experimental-rules/page-2 Scroll further down the thread for more. It will be getting painted for my Angels of Redemption as part of the tale of 16 gamers. wow, brainfart on my end- I forgot that you posted those in the experimental rules thread; thought it was someone else. Mea Culpa! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3509101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I love the autocannon turrets in concept, but the barrels are comically long in practice. I'd have to stick with the HB just for the sake of aesthetics, although I'd probably ask my opponents for "counts as" permissions! Shortening the autocannon barrels would be pretty easy, all things considered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3509117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 That's true enough...I'd be afraid to be the first one to do it, though, given the cost of the model! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3509223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I would be doing it... if a friend hadn't pointed out how badly I'd get stung by import tax if I ordered everything I watned to order from Forge World for Christmas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3509239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Disruptor, that's why he's been bumped from friend to acquaintance right? Friends don't :cuss on their friend's parades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3509299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Not always; By the time you get into the range of free shipping (and you don't need a lot of Forgeworld to get there) you're up to the level where the import taxes can be upwards of 30% you need to budget those things... Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3509304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Disruptor, that's why he's been bumped from friend to acquaintance right? Friends don't on their friend's parades. No no, friends look out for you and make sure you don't end up paying an extra $250 for no good reason, so he's definitely all good in my book (and my plans are still going forward, just in smaller steps)! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281964-adopting-the-fire-raptor/page/2/#findComment-3509918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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