SAlamanders CHAPTER TACTICKS SPECIAL RULE

[Sn4k30r]

hi guys, i have a question, i played a game with salamanders with DA allies Against Chaos space marines , with helldrakes,        

 

here comes the question, when he wounded my salamanders within 4+powerfield generator, 4+invu, with his helldrakes, i tried to take my re-roll, against flamer weapon, "FLAMECRAFT " but here comes the problem he said me that isnt a flamer as it doesnt described as flamer in page56 of rulebook....

 

So how does it works,? that means isnt a flamer? and i dont take re-roll save? or is it described somewhere i can not find? plz help. thx!

[Disruptor_fe404]

It is indeed not a flamer.

 

Also, isn't the Salamanders' Chapter Tactic save re-roll only usable on armour saves?

[Sn4k30r]

it says, saving throws not armor-saving throws, so the fraq cannon of the blood angels not a flamer too?

and the necrons cryptec abysal-deathmarks too?


Also what is dragons breath page 56 as flamer weapon? Pyromancy primaris flame breath, still not flamer?

NEED A FAQ? maybe? fast? BALEFLAMER not a flamer? flame breath the same?

Anyone happen to him too?

[hallodx]

That "flamer" only apply weapons in BRB P56, not all weapons use flaming template or name with flamer: their power source and way to kill are different from flamers in BRB, and Salamander CT only let you reroll AS against  such "classical" flamers.

[Gentlemanloser]

Strange that this incarnation of the rules doesn't use the fluff precedent set by other, earlier, similair abilities.

 

Like Lord of Fire or the Ulumethan Plasma Syphon.

 

I would have expected the Salamanders to work versus anything that used Fire or Flame in it's description, and not be limited to the list on a BRB page.

 

But maybe the Salamanders just aren't that good at making stuff, and can only protect versus Flame weapons they can also make...

[Disruptor_fe404]

Ah, you're right about the saving throw re-rolls, but the Chapter Tactics entry is pretty clear about flame weapons as defined by the WH40K rulebook. So it doesn't apply to baleflamer and the like.