Pbenner Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 So, With Fluffy Numbers (8) is an Icon of Wrath worth the points? Furious Charge and re-roll charge dice for ~3pts/model seems good... Does an Icon of Wrath give it's bonus to an attached IC if he has the Mark of Khorne already? Like a Terminator Lord w/ Mark of Khorne? Let me know. Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 "While an Independent Character is part of a unit, he counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes, though he still follows the rules for characters." p39 BRB The magic stick grants the unit a benefit, and the IC is part of that unit, is my interpretation of that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3497533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Now this is just me, but I much prefer Icon of Wrath on a 20 man Squad of Chaos Space Marines with the Mark of Khorne attached to Fabius Bile and a Dark Apostle if you can afford it. that's a S6 Charge, 5 attacks each is just awesome, and Hilarious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3497581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khurdur Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 yeah the banner covers an IC in the unit, so thats a S7 daemon axe on the charge ! I personally put a khorne unit in land raider with an axelord and either 4 khorne termines with icon or 8-9 berzerkers w/icon. That way, they usually can pull off quite a long charge. On a foot squad, the enemy will just shoot those 8 terminators down, no one it their right mind will let that unit hit their lines. So thumbs up for the icon, but you gotta take a land raider. Or put it in khorne bikes, but you asked about terminators. Or, if you play apocalypse or use forge world, take a chaos spartan assault tank w/ daemonic hull and ceramite armour. Stuff 10 khorne terminators w/icon and an axelord or Khârn in it and rush the enemy. Cue evil laughter as you rip his line to shreds... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3498136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Would you put the Icon on the Aspiring Champion, in order to help protect it with LoS? Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3498509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khurdur Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 never thought of that...your have some LO,S, but you have to throw yourself on the nearest enemies hero due to the champion of chaos rule so its not the best idea... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3498583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 But he's a terminator. He's going to take the challenge, yes, but with a Pfist and TDA I give him 80/20 against most non-IC challenges; 50/50 against IC Challenges; and 35/65 against named ICs... Just a thought to protect the points; granted he loses it if he Spawnifies or Ascends, but in that case who cares, he's a Khorne Daemon Prince, something will die HARD. Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3499797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 if he goes DP he loses all upgrades and weapons and without wings , he will struggle to reach melee. also if he ends up in a challange he will use all those attacks to kill 1 sgt. this gives your opponent 2 turns to move away , send someone to kill him , send another sgt to tar pit him longer etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3499918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Okay, this is fine. I understand that a DP with no wings is liable to get the tar pit treatment, such is life. Still the question is; Who gets the Icon? The Aspiring Champion or another regular terminator? I assume one with no upgrades that is kept near the back? Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3505329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khurdur Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I dont think the champ gets it. His options only from the terminator wargear. A regular guy gets it. he actually should be quite safe, only heroes or with precision fire/stikre can pick him out and he's still a terminator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3539638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreaper84 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 "one model in the unit...." so anyone can take it, i almost always put wrath on my champ b/c there is only a benifit on the charge, usually only get 1 good one a game, so if the champ snuffs it after that....oh well. the extra 4+ los till then is a nice add protection till delivery Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282010-khorne-terminators-and-icon-of-wrath/#findComment-3540820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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