Toeko Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 So, I intend to finally but thought to paper and flesh out a chapter that I have had in my mind since 3rd edition. Founding Chapter: Unknown Founding: Late 26th founding Chapter Master: Darius the Silent Homeworld: The "Fates" Fortress Monastery: None Colors: Purples, Red and Yellow Specialty: Close Combat actions and Lightning raids Strength: 9 Companies, Roughly 1000 Marines Battle Cry: Vox manipulated recordings of the enemies leadership giving falsified orders, or Silence if they are not able to create the vox recordings. Chapter Symbol When was your Chapter formed?The Erinyes chapter was founded late in the 26th founding after the Tau and Hive Fleet Behemoth had been encountered.Why were they created?They were created in response to the onset of Xenos threats from beyond Imperial space. the Chapter was given a sacred duty to travel the empty spaces beyond the Imperium's borders, seemingly forever, to seek out and destroy the enemies of Mankind. Does your Chapter have a homeworld?Yes, Cthtos IV Located in Segmentum Ultima. The Planet is a gas giant that has three lush worlds that orbit it that derive the majority of the population from the system. The Moons Alecto and Megaera are Forested death worlds that the population has managed to clear out large swaths of land for mining and farming. Tisriphone, The third moon, is a forgeworld. Smaller than its sister moons the planet functions as an armory for the Erinyes Chapter as well as supplying ammunition to the local sectors. The 3 moons collectively are referred to by the local inhabitants as the "Moirai", roughly translating into low gothic as "The three Fates".the other two planets of the system are Volcanic death worlds. they have no permanent population, miners will risk going to the surface during the volcanic down seasons to harvest abundant rare minerals. How has your homeworld affected your Chapter?Due to the harsh nature of the planets that encompass this region the population has learned to rely on each other intimately. To them they must trust each other above all else, and in doing so they are very slow to make promises and oaths. But when one is made it would take an intervention from the gods to stop them from completing it. this characteristic has spread into the chapter. They will not pledge aid to a campaign unless they can see it out. and once pledged any ally can expect the utmost support of the chapter. How does your Chapter fight?The Erinyes Chapter prefers to strike at the limbs of an opposing force. leaving the head to witness the loss of its arms and legs before killing itself. In practice this means the chapter will launch itself at the oppositions supporting elements, destroying each, leaving only the command structure and the rank and file troopers. In doing so chaos and Fear will spread though out the ranks, breaking down all forms of discipline until the hemorrhaging of moral causes the opponent to kill themselves. Due to there unique method of combat the Erinyes Marines almost exclusively practice close range Bolter drills and Lightning strikes. Emphasizing on Brutal Close combat actions and assaults. The chapter takes high value in taking trophies from there enemies, they prefer to take trophies from Traitor space marines. Commonly taking pieces of armor, ritually blessing and cleansing it from any taint and then wearing it. They feel this causes a sense of dread in there enemies. Why do they fight this way?The Chapter fights on the edge of the imperium, commonly without aid from other Imperial Forces, When they fight they can't afford long drawn out campaigns, This method has allowed them to engage the enemy in a series of decisive strikes and leave the body to die with little to no chance of cohesive retaliation. Are there any examples of your Chapter's battle-history?The chapter's most glorious moment involving this tactic was against a splinter fleet of Tyranids, by systematically destroying the smaller Synapse creatures the chapter was able to defeat the swarm with minimally casualties allowing the Tyranids to devour itself. How is your Chapter organized?The Chapter Adheres predominately to the Codex Astrates. The only deviation is the chapter does not have a first company, instead Veterans are distributed throughout the other companies, functioning in a leadership role, along with training, Also because the chapter is so far removed from the Imperium they have a Higher number of Chaplains, roughly equating to two chaplains per company. The reason Veterans are assigned to other companies instead of being grouped into a "veteran first company" is because on there home planet the Old veteran hunters are revered for there knowledge and are intrusted to be mentors to the new hunters, in effect it allows the chapter to spread there knowledge evenly throughout. it is also the reason Veterans are allowed to vote on matters regarding to the chapter. The chapter boasts extra chaplains because they are known to stay long stretches away from other imperial agencies so when the chapter was created the extra chaplains were instituted to help monitor any hardships the marines would face being so distant from Imperial bodies. The Chapter Master is spokesperson for the chapter when dealing with outside affairs. Internal affairs and matters that will affect the chapter are decided by a council consisting of each Company Captain and the Veterans assigned to the company. In case of a tie the Chapter Master is the Tie breaker, otherwise he has no vote.What comprises your Chapter's belief system?The Chapter worships the Emperor as the Perfect Warrior, Venerating him and praising him. They do not view him as a god, which has caused problems with the Ecclesiarchy. They View themselves as guardians of mankind, seeing the enhancement they undertake as a necessary evil to defend the imperium. because of this view the chapter has been know to recklessly endanger themselves and the mission at hand to Evacuate civilians populations. Why does your Chapter hold these beliefs? How have these beliefs affected your Chapter?It has caused the chapter to become Isolationist, very rarely taking part in campaigns due to the Imperium as a wholes disregard for civilian casualties. at any given time 6 of the chapters 9 companies are maintaining there Vigil in the darkness of space, leaving usually 2 companies to roam imperial Space assisting in various campaigns. Currently due to the Threat of Abbadons 13th crusade the chapter has mobilized 4 companies to the Eye of Terror to assist in its defense. Which Primarch does your Chapter descend from? Is your Chapter aware of its genetic legacy, or have they lost their records?The Chapter comes from Imperial Fist stock. Which Chapter was your Chapter created from? The original legion itself, or one of the successor Chapters?Due to the nature of there mission the Chapter as a whole underwent extensive training with the Ultramarines Tyranaic War veterans, After that they were assigned to under go training with the Carcharodons chapter seeing as they have a similar mission. Because of the unique nature of there initial creation they claim both the Ultramarines and Carcharodons and "spiritual" parents. they routinly look to the Carcharodons for guidance when on the outer fringes and have garnered a mutual trust and reliance on each other. the companies that roam Imperial space commonly work with Ultramarines. Has your gene-seed mutated in any way?The Occulobe of the chapter has mutated, causing the marines eyes to become solid black, allowing the marines to see in conditions of total darkness but causing them to be very sensitive to bright lights, because of this they are rarely seen without there helmets on. Imperial agents who have been granted permission to board a vessel maintained by the chapter have commented on how dark the ships are kept, "claiming it to be barely as bright as a single candle burning in a large room." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 The Erinyes traditionally are female. I don't know if such a name fits with an all male Astartes chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3497915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Astarte is the female goddess of war (and love) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3497949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Claiming some sort of connection to a female goddess is something else than giving an all male army the name of female goddesses. If there indeed is supposed to be a connection to the goddess Astarte, it makes no sense at all to use it pre heresy. So I don't think there is supposed to be such a connection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3497960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'm not claiming a connection, I am saying a Space Marine is named after Astarte. Multiple Space Marines are therefore Astartes, plural. Adeptus roughly means gained, which knowing how one becomes a Space Marine, is a description of the super human warriors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3498107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Single space marines are sometimes also referred to as Astartes. I have never seen Astarte in a GW publication. If Astartes is a reference to the Mesopotamian goddess Ishtar, which you at least imply by saying they are named after her, this does not fit with the Pre Heresy Imperium and the Imperial Truth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3498122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'm saying GW named them after Astarte, not the big E. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3498204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeko Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 The name fit with the image and theme for the chapter. Erinyes were Chthonic Goddesses of Vengeance. In the Illiad it references them as being those that punish whoever has sworn a false oath. They are basically Goddesses of the underworld who punish Oath breakers. this weekend at latest I should have the basic outlines of the the chapter but as I mentioned the name fit with the theme. The chapter went renegade because the Inquisition decided there methods of diving feet first into "hell" to punish Oath breakers were allowing the chapter to become to exposed to the dangers of the warp, thus declaring them renegade and in the minds of the chapter the inquisition broke an oath so they are also an enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3498308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 This has been a nice little excursion, but let's not take Toeko's development of his DIY Chapter onto a tangent. The point about the Erinyes in Greek mythology being female is valid, but whether or not to stick with the name is up to Toeko. I am reminded of an all-female DIY Chapter that I saw back in 3rd edition - it was named the Furies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3498326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeko Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 Just did a major update on the chapter. all the basics are fleshed out. Just need some help refining some of the document to make it fit a little better without "neckbeards" raging Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3556702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I don't mean to take this back on a tangent but I fail to see how the name could derive any issues. Space Marines are genetically engineered from young males but beyond that, gender holds no sway or purpose to the Astartes. You are genderless in all intents and purposes, only noted as 'Brother' as much out of simple proper response as it is to the connection they have with ancient Monk orders in concept. I see no reason why you can't name the Chapter after a Goddess or even base much of their lore and customs around it. It makes sense and I personally think its very cool. Now, I will honestly say I'm not a fan of the paint scheme in the slightest but that's a matter of taste (I just think purple and yellow don't match with the red) Otherwise, I think you're on to a good start. Keep it up, I look forward to seeing more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3556732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 There is a canon Chapter called the Blood Gorgons, after another set of female mythological beings. Granted, they were a Cursed Founding that fell to Chaos, but the precedent is still there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3556790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefect Apollyon Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Erinyes, very nice. I can't see a problem, the DIY Chapter I'm working on are called "Sons of Andraste." Celtic-British Goddess of War. On topic, nice premise, but as they are a recent founding, and not a 13th Founding, why do they not know their genetic legacy? Surely they'd be obsessed with finding that out? All this talk about the name, no ones looked at the colour scheme. It's burning my eyes :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3556890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Lowe Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I like the history as it's some thing a little different. and to my 2c to the comment about the name - GW set the precedent when they called them Astartes (a goddess) and them they backed this up when they released a character for Inquisitor called Artemis (another name of a goddess, not sure which pantheon she belongs to though) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3556909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefect Apollyon Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Greek virgin Goddess of the Hunt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3556913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeko Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 thanks for the support regarding the name. now as for the gene seed, they can figure it out. I just wanted them to be an ad hoc last minute addition to the 26th founding because some higher ups were unnerved by the recent trend of aliens they didnt know about attacking. and with the special training from the ultramarines and space sharks they haven't had the time to gather the information. I am pretty sure they will be from imperial fist stock predominantly black templar like gene seed. and for the color. its not set in stone, but I agree it is a but much, I'll throw up some different schemes once I get home. probably subbing out the yellow with silver. any other details I should focus on fleshing out? before I get into the fine details. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3556929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefect Apollyon Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I suggest Black or White instead of Yellow. White works with Purple (see; Pre-Heresy Emperors Children). I also suggest getting rid of the ambiguity of the Gene-Seed. If you know what it is, just put it in. Reason for a change to the structure? Why do they not have a Veteran Company? What prompted the change? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3556934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeko Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 I don't mean to take this back on a tangent but I fail to see how the name could derive any issues. Space Marines are genetically engineered from young males but beyond that, gender holds no sway or purpose to the Astartes. You are genderless in all intents and purposes, only noted as 'Brother' as much out of simple proper response as it is to the connection they have with ancient Monk orders in concept. I see no reason why you can't name the Chapter after a Goddess or even base much of their lore and customs around it. It makes sense and I personally think its very cool. Now, I will honestly say I'm not a fan of the paint scheme in the slightest but that's a matter of taste (I just think purple and yellow don't match with the red) Otherwise, I think you're on to a good start. Keep it up, I look forward to seeing more. Erinyes, very nice. I can't see a problem, the DIY Chapter I'm working on are called "Sons of Andraste." Celtic-British Goddess of War. On topic, nice premise, but as they are a recent founding, and not a 13th Founding, why do they not know their genetic legacy? Surely they'd be obsessed with finding that out? All this talk about the name, no ones looked at the colour scheme. It's burning my eyes I suggest Black or White instead of Yellow. White works with Purple (see; Pre-Heresy Emperors Children). I also suggest getting rid of the ambiguity of the Gene-Seed. If you know what it is, just put it in. Reason for a change to the structure? Why do they not have a Veteran Company? What prompted the change? I updated it with some more information regarding the Structure of the chapter in regards to Veterans and the extra chaplains. Also I updated the color scheme, I have 1 up on my main post and this one below. let me know preferences, I like them both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3557001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Lowe Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 of the 2 schemes, I prefer the one in the original post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3557284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefect Apollyon Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The one in the original post. Painting Purple and White is hard enough, a halved colour scheme will drive you insane. Only change I suggest is the boots to White. And maybe lose the cape. Never seen The Incredibles? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3557326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorkimedes Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Good stuff so far. The one in the original post. Painting Purple and White is hard enough, a halved colour scheme will drive you insane. Only change I suggest is the boots to White. And maybe lose the cape. Never seen The Incredibles? But it matches their new bolters so well! Every astartes knows that accessories make the power armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3557717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeko Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 The one in the original post. Painting Purple and White is hard enough, a halved colour scheme will drive you insane. Only change I suggest is the boots to White. And maybe lose the cape. Never seen The Incredibles? I have seen the Incredibles and that is the most valid point I have ever heard about not taking capes. but If I had to say anything was off limits it would be the cape, for some reason capes make me think badass when its on your "soldier". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3557907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Nice work! On the subject of color schemes, how would you feel with painting the legs purple and having the shoulderpads be white instead? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3557932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonal Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I'm liking it, the name is a particularly nice touch in my opinon. Although, on the matte of color schemes, I utterly despise red/purple combinations. Something such as gold or black? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3557938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefect Apollyon Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Forgetting the colour scheme for a moment, when will you be writing this up as a proper IA? It'll be easier to C&C the fluff if its written properly and fleshed out a bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282039-the-erinyes-chapter-by-the-numbers/#findComment-3558181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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