Lightning Claw or is it Claws?

[Rpell]

Not sure if this has been posted but my question is as follows.  

Vanguard Veteran Squad (Page 170 C:SM) Any model may take items from the Melee Weapons list. 

Melee Weapons List (Page 159 C:SM)  A model may replace his bolt pistol and or melee weapon for -Lightning claw 15 pts.

Profiles (Page 179 C:SM)  Lightning Claws  Str: User  Ap: 3  Melee, Shred, Specialist Weapon.

So the  question is, to have a model with Lightning claws is it 15 or 30 points?  Do I have to purchase two claws in order to use them  or equip my vanguard with them?  30 pts seems a bit steep.

[Dafoo]

You can use 1 for 15 Points but you can't use the full affect until you get to that 30 point mark.

[hallodx]

Dafoo's right. And, come on! You pay 15 points for a AP3 power sword, with +1A from pistol. Now you pay 15 points for AP3 claw with shred, and you expect that 15 points also give you same number of attacks like power sword?

[Lysere]

One claw gets you all the rules listed in the statline. You however lose the bonus attack for two weapons because it is specialist, that's what a second claw would be for.

[RazorDaemon]

The wording of that line means you can pay 15 points one time to replace either the Chainsword or the Pistol. You can then purchase it a second time to replace the other weapon with the second claw, to have an actual pair of Lightning Claws you pay 30 points and trade in both the Pistol and Chainsword.

 

It is also worded that way so you can have a model with a single Lightning Claw and Pistol, though typically people prefer to go with 0 or 2 Claws. I specifically say one Claw and the Pistol because due to the Specialist Weapon rule, the Chainsword is useless when paired with a Lightning Claw, as it would not confer an additional attack (nor does the pistol, but you at least get a shooting attack with it)

 

To end on a positive note, besides the Rule of Cool with dual Lightning Claws, that second batch of 15 points is the only thing to give you an additional attack at AP 3 with Shred

[Quixus]

RazorDaemon, on 18 Oct 2013 - 07:15, said:

To end on a positive note, besides the Rule of Cool with dual Lightning Claws, that second batch of 15 points is the only thing to give you an additional attack at AP 3 with Shred

You could also pay 25 pts (I guess, I haven't read the new C:SM yet) for a power fist. Now you have the choice of +1A to the lighting claw profile or +1A to the power fist profile.

[RazorDaemon]

 

RazorDaemon, on 18 Oct 2013 - 07:15, said:

To end on a positive note, besides the Rule of Cool with dual Lightning Claws, that second batch of 15 points is the only thing to give you an additional attack at AP 3 with Shred

You could also pay 25 pts (I guess, I haven't read the new C:SM yet) for a power fist. Now you have the choice of +1A to the lighting claw profile or +1A to the power fist profile.

Yes, but that is 25 for one Power Fist, so it'd be 40 points for LC and PF, but it does add versatility. 3 hits at AP3 with Shred, or 3 hits at AP2, x2 Str but Initiative 1.