LordCommanderSamirus Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Hey everybody, I've been working on a BA Fandex for a couple weeks now. Got it most of the way finished up. However I don't believe I can post an actual link due to the fact that it has a lot of point values straight in line with the DA and SM Codices. I am however looking for feedback and am hoping its ok to post just saying that I have one if anyone is interested. PM me for the link. -Samirus How about a teaser: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzhbPuOi6X_LcmRuWkRBNW5ESVE/edit?usp=sharing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fury Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Pretty cool so far, I'd like to see more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 Pretty cool so far, I'd like to see more. pm'd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'd love to see it also. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Awesome, I really like it. Would definitely like to see more of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 pm's away Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Looks reasonable so far from what I can see. Personally (if you're after C&C) I think the Ex Libris Mortis is possibly too good... in a Kill Point mission all you have to do is bunker down with your army around the bearer and you've just made the game unlosable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapelXIII Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I really like the rules, very professional looking, and by and large I believe, fair with the points and rules. I will be trying to convince my friends to let me us this in the future. Some things I like: Axe Mortalis no longer being Unwieldy. Makes the most sense for that Dante The Executioner's Axe staying Unwieldy. It is still an axe and there is no real reason that it shouldn't be unwieldy in my opinion. Giving Viratis Rending. Once again makes sense for the character. Lorenzo and his special rule is really great, and a fun nod to Space Hulk. Heroes, One and All is a great rule for the Sanguinary Guard. Spear of Telesto has an amazingly cool set of rules Though if I can make some suggestions: Moving the last sentence of Angel's Wisdom to Fury of Baal. Seems to make a bit more sense. Not sure I like Blood Reaver or Heaven's Teeth having an AP value. Blood Song's change in stats. I think having it like the Sternguards guns really worked well for him. Banner of the Angel giving a 3++ is a bit to good, maybe a 5++ or 4++ I don't know what to think of Ex Libris Mortis, it is an interesting piece or war gear, but I believe would lead to some game breaking. I'm not sure what to think of the Blade Encarmine. I keep arguing with myself about if it should stay the same, or whether it should be AP 3 and then made AP 1 with the Bane of Chaos. The Grail is probably a bit to cheap. Being able to re-roll FNP is huge. I would probably increase by ten points maybe. Might need to add rules for the Wings of Sanguinius for Mephiston. Those are my initial thoughts. Absolutely loving the rules. Once again an amazing piece of work. Emperor Protect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 Thanks for the suggestions ill let you know when i repost it with some modifications. The ex libris mortis is a nod to a blood angels forum ive going to for years. ... wow ... the 3++ on the Banner was a typo... should have been a 5+... oops I want something more for Angel's Wisdom... seize the initiative on a 5+.... or too much? Blood Reaver I was thinking Heavy Chainsword so ap5 seemed appropriate Heaven's Teeth... might change to - Might not be a bad idea on the blade encarmine yeah don't know what i was thinking on the grail.... 5++ maybe? added rules for Wings of Sanguinius... oversight also added the 0-1 for DC, re-roll reserve on DoA, and Blood Chalice... which i also overlooked\ will repost soon -Samirus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader Bob Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Wow, the teaser looks really interesting, may i see the rest? Edit: Thank you for the prompt answer, and I LOVE YOU! (just skimmed to the Sanguinor profile ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 So ideas for how to change the Ex Libris Mortis so it isn't as op? Still really want to include it. For those of you who've never been there Ex Libris Mortis is a Blood Angels Forum started by Blood Angel Brother Edward. He has since passed and when I was up and coming in the Blood Angels many years ago he and his work was a huge inspiration as I know he was to many BA players who visited his site and forum. So its a not to him and I really want it to stay in some manner but don't want it to be over powered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 Wow, the teaser looks really interesting, may i see the rest? Edit: Thank you for the prompt answer, and I LOVE YOU! (just skimmed to the Sanguinor profile ) ...yeah... forgot I gave him t5 and w4 might have to up the points a few more... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader Bob Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Might be over the top, but is a try: what about a army wide +1 to FNP rolls as long as the model with the book is on the table? Going with your fluff, i'd say marines will fight with even more zeal and abandon knowing their names will be remembered forever. Or the still missed Initiative bump, if is not already somewhere else, i'm still reading but wanted to snapshot an idea Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3499858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Unless this Codex contains a Monstrous Creature version of the Sanguinor, I WANT NONE OF IT SIR! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Unless this Codex contains a Monstrous Creature version of the Sanguinor, I WANT NONE OF IT SIR! He's got some of the goodies of a MC but giving him Smash and an AP2 weapon with his rules would have been a bit op, hes close though. And his Warlord Trait is really spiffy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I'm totally digging it. I dislike the 10 point increase to my fragioso, but hey, they are pretty cheap for how much damage they can potentially cause, so it's understandable.I agree with a lot of the c&c. Overall, nicely done sir. Why stop at Sgt. Lorenzo when you can add Sgt. Gideon for the assault terminators? Just a thought. I think that was really cool of you to include Lorenzo, and his overwatch at full bs brings back some space hulk memories for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuSk Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Interesting so far. Would love to see the complete set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I haven't had a chance to peruse V2.0 but what I saw was very nice. It was rather funny that I bought a copy of the Angels of Death codex and it was delivered the same day I got to see your fandex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Maybe change it so that for every model killed in his unit/within 6", he and his unit gets a buff? Sort of like Epidemius' tally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Ok so... here's what I've changed since last night... If anyone remembers the 3rd/early 4th edition BA codex, Sanguinary High Priests were a thing... not just Corbulo... they had a rule called Sanguinius' Chosen... it was sort of a ranged hatred but restricted to models in the range not units. So I've sort of brought it back replacing the Blood Chalices, to give a point to having the Grail Special Issue Wargear item... also from the same codex... changed the name and description of Angel's wisdom to Angel's Insight... to make a little more sense. I think thats it... so here goes PMs of V4... v3 was sort of a wash since i never posted it but had it made before i went to work last night so this will be labeled as v4 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader Bob Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Almost finished reading it, looks awesome, not overpowered (or i just don't see the possibilities yet) but full of character. Amazing work really. For some random comments: i'd say the Libris works very well in this incarnation The Sanguinor might do with either 3 wounds or T4, both seem a bit much once i've gotten past the RAAAAAAARGH! moment and thought about it a little more Sepharan looks overcosted to me, expecially compared to Lorenzo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 ya know I was thinking that Sepharan is missing something I originally had on him but I can't find the notes I had made... I'm going to leave the points where they are for now but might adjust if I can't think of what it was... I'm thinking his sword, imperialis, either had rending or instant death... but now am unsure... and the sanguinor thing... just looked at that again... I think the 4w might have been a copy-paste error... what are everybody's thought on the sanguinor's stats? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Milenko Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Wow, great teaser... Would love to see more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I'd love to see a revised Shroud of Sanguinuis make its way into the relic section. But I wouldn't even know where to begin on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gydeon Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Loving what I'm seeing, mind if I get a copy of what you got? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282111-ba-fandex/#findComment-3500535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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