Olis Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Nice, given the Danish post, I had to see mine next week, maybe January :-) Well, then allow me to tease you with another picture; ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The Silent War? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The Silent War? From the look of the contents, it's everything after Isstvan V. The first section involves Malcador and events on Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 most interested in the timeline any clues as to future battles and engagements, and which legion(s) will be involved? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The Silent War? From the look of the contents, it's everything after Isstvan V. The first section involves Malcador and events on Terra. Interesting. I hear this is supposed to be a fully fluff-updated version. Are there any significant changes between this and the old one or are they just minor one-liners? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The privilige of proximity! I guess I have to wait deep into next week.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 hopkins, on 15 Nov 2013 - 12:27, said:most interested in the timeline any clues as to future battles and engagements, and which legion(s) will be involved? The names of the sections in the second book are: The Silent War Signus Prime Calth The Age of Darkness Terra Aftermath The only ones that contain (at least some) information that hasn't been expanded upon in the novels, yet, are 'The Age of Darkness' and 'Terra'. 'Terra' obviously will cover the Siege but 'The Age of Darkness' has interesting bits on 'The Wolf and the Khan' and the 'Doom of the Death Guard' for example. Kol_Saresk, on 15 Nov 2013 - 12:36, said: I hear this is supposed to be a fully fluff-updated version. Are there any significant changes between this and the old one or are they just minor one-liners? I haven't read enough of it to ascertain that yet, I'm afraid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The Wolf and the Khan? I NEEDZ IT. I NEEDZ MY FLUFFCRACK! In retrospect, fluffcrack sounds weird. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 scars spoilers could just be about the bits in scars? or, seen as the space wolves are waiting for help from an unexpected quarter could the khan, post-prospero, returning to help them after the initial refusal be a shock? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I have yet to read Scars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 scars spoilers could just be about the bits in scars? or, seen as the space wolves are waiting for help from an unexpected quarter could the khan, post-prospero, returning to help them after the initial refusal be a shock? Reasonable. But better safe than sorry just in case. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3522724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Seriously I need mine to arrive apparently they shipped tallaran as well I want to do a review but please brother just tell me what's in it, the fluff nazi in me needs to know Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3523162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Hey Olisredan? TELL. ME. EVERYTHING. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3523199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I want to do a review but please brother just tell me what's in it, the fluff nazi in me needs to know Hey Olisredan? TELL. ME. EVERYTHING. Okay, this'll purely be a fact outlay, rather than a review. The books are are very much in the style of the current FW HH books, with the exclusion of the metal corner protection (that's because of the slip cover). Both books roughly come in at the two-hundred page mark, although book one (The Age of the Emperor) outweighs book two (The Silent War) by twenty-five or thirty pages. Galaxy maps feature on the inside covers (all of which are identical). There is art in the books from the CCG, from Adrian Smith's work, John Blanche's work and there's many of the 'modern' depictions also inside, too. The CCG artwork sill makes up a majority of the pictures. On page 24 through 27 of the first book there are colour schemes of the Legiones Astrtes depicted very much like how FW usually depicts them (front-on view with a description underneath). At the end of book two there is an artwork index separated by Legion/faction, presumably for easy referance. Now, although I'm pretty sure the Ruinstorm and the brief description on the Crusader Host, for example, are new additions to these books (indeed, there appears to be a few additions) - there are snippets which concern me as to how much of the original text was updated. Until I read this cover to cover and compare them to the original books (that I have somewhere), I can't be sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3523505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Supposedly all of the text is supposed to be "update" and "compliant". For some reason, the way it was said over on First Expedition made it sound like it was a major revamping. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3523509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 The bit about Phall made me want to fact check. I was under the impression that there was more ships in the Imperial Fists fleet but my memory is a bit fuzzy. That said, after a bit of checking, I do believe that the text is indeed up to date. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3523513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Okay, cool. Just out of curiosity, if I say, purchased the older visions, would you happen to know how much discrepancies would be between the two in terms of the common information? Not looking for specifics, just seeing how "out of date" the older ones are is all. Like "don't bother" to "you'd be missing out on the new stuff, but you'd be good". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3523530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Sounds like the Amazon one is about 80 pages shorter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3523654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Okay, cool. Just out of curiosity, if I say, purchased the older visions, would you happen to know how much discrepancies would be between the two in terms of the common information? Not looking for specifics, just seeing how "out of date" the older ones are is all. Like "don't bother" to "you'd be missing out on the new stuff, but you'd be good". Off the top of my head I can't recall which bits are definitely different and how they are different but there's extra information that's not in the old ones and it seems to me that the newer version doesn't have the same discrepancies the originals did (like mislabeled pictures). I think, to me, "you'd be missing out on the new stuff, but you'd be good" - there's certain pieces of info in the old ones that are certainly out of date but if you're up to speed with the HH series, you're going to mostly know the info in the newer version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3524484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Ah okay. I just ask out of curiosity because I have to be honest, price is a big motivator for me at the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282119-visions-of-heresy/page/4/#findComment-3524499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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