depthcharge12 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Soooo A command squad with cataphractii armor and cyber familiars would also have 2+/3++ ???? Thats absolutely brutal. And if you add an apothecary or primus medicae.... yowch That would be a total deathstar and make back any rediculous point costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Then that shall be what my men have haha - let see how Vulkan fares against that lot :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yeeeeep. Absolutely possible, and I may make a unit like that to join with Autek But for my personal praetor, I want him in artificer armour to fit with the Breacher siege army theme. Rule of cool on that one, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Hard unit yeah. But just like THSS termies, with added firepower. The same you deal with THSS, you deal with those: small arms fire. A lot of it. Twice. Which remembers to me that we need badly an Imperial Army army list (maybe I'm missing the bit as the IG can be used as such, but I doubt it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Hard unit yeah. But just like THSS termies, with added firepower. The same you deal with THSS, you deal with those: small arms fire. A lot of it. Twice. Which remembers to me that we need badly an Imperial Army army list (maybe I'm missing the bit as the IG can be used as such, but I doubt it). Absolutely. Heck a simple 20 man Legion Tactical Squad using their special rules to double their shots could absolutely decimate a Command Squad like that. Doesn't matter how good your armour save is. You're still going down. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 The three I have are dependent on the list but only vary slightly. My RoW for Night Lords has him in a Jump Pack, Paragon Blade, Digital Weapons and Iron Halo. He is my Captain Hollywood commander with exposed head, chiselled features and a short mohawk, captured BA sword and Sanguinary guard artificer armor.(I ordered a bulk lot of marines on ebay and got a squad of Sang guard in it who quickly were chopped up and became all my characters in artificer armor.) My Foot Slogger(drop pod actually) has him with Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Archeotech pistol.(FW model) Termy- Cataphractii armor, combi-bolter, paragon blade, and digi weapons.(FW model) Unlike my modern 40k Night Lords army, I havent had 20 years of story building on a regular Joe with an Autocannon who eventually became my Nightwing Commander(Logan count as when I got fed up with the chaos codex). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 They're doing an Imperial Army list in either the next book (Istvaan part 2 I think) or in the Calth book :) Aye small arms fire - but which do you choose when there are 20+ terminators and 3 contemptors? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 They're doing an Imperial Army list in either the next book (Istvaan part 2 I think) or in the Calth book Aye small arms fire - but which do you choose when there are 20+ terminators and 3 contemptors? The one standing in front of you? I know very few rules for the Legion units, but when I have the time (and money) I will most certainely be getting a couple preators just because the paragon blade just looks like so much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Problem I do have with Paragon Blade is just that. Its TOO good. It makes basically every other weapon option on a Praetor completely pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Problem I do have with Paragon Blade is just that. Its TOO good. It makes basically every other weapon option on a Praetor completely pointless. Other than rule of cool, I mean for my Codex army I gave a neophyte sergeant a thunder hammer just because he has the option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Problem I do have with Paragon Blade is just that. Its TOO good. It makes basically every other weapon option on a Praetor completely pointless. Other than rule of cool, I mean for my Codex army I gave a neophyte sergeant a thunder hammer just because he has the option. Very sneaky. Does he shout "go loud" before or after he hits someone? Problem I do have with Paragon Blade is just that. Its TOO good. It makes basically every other weapon option on a Praetor completely pointless. That's pretty much my only quibble with the entire list, it's a win-button of sorts in terms of war gear. At least if you go with an axe model you can fluff justify it as Gorefather's little bastard child, considering the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Problem I do have with Paragon Blade is just that. Its TOO good. It makes basically every other weapon option on a Praetor completely pointless. Other than rule of cool, I mean for my Codex army I gave a neophyte sergeant a thunder hammer just because he has the option. Very sneaky. Does he shout "go loud" before or after he hits someone? >Problem I do have with Paragon Blade is just that. Its TOO good. It makes basically every other weapon option on a Praetor completely pointless. That's pretty much my only quibble with the entire list, it's a win-button of sorts in terms of war gear. At least if you go with an axe model you can fluff justify it as Gorefather's little bastard child, considering the stats. Not really, considering that Khârn has his own rules now in Massacre. And here's the silly bit. Aside from Gorechild having Armourbane, they are the EXACT same weapon. Same str bonus, same AP, same rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'm going to wait for Extermination before I build a Praetor, as I think there may be a choice for a Warsmith upgrade (just a guess/hope). But if I had to choose right now I would say Catraphractii armour, Master Crafted Paragon Blade, and combi weapon. Or PA armour, boarding shield and the Master Crafted Pargon Blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 With Arms, only kidding :P My Salamanders Praetor has a master crafted paragon weapon with built in volkite charger, he also wears a mantle of the eternal drake that makes him an Eternal Warrior. A long with other bits and pieces like Digital weapon and Iron Halo, he can both dish out a good amount of damage but also withstand more than most praetors can. http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9086/bm3d.jpg Dont know why I never mention this but......... that is one sweet looking model! Grate conversion work. So after thinking about it, I feel that I will keep the axe but it will represent his master crafted paragon blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm starting to think the Paragon Blade cost should be built into the cost of a Praetor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm starting to think the Paragon Blade cost should be built into the cost of a Praetor. surely that would simply make it too good? I mean c'mon 100pts for a guy with 2+ Armour and an AP2 Initiative weapon?? plus whatever Legion perks you take for you individual choice - at least with it being a good additional cost means that even though it's the obligatory choice, you still have to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Son of Magnus Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 My Praetor build is MC paragon blade, Charnabal Sabre, Iron Halo, digital lasers, blood madness. 8 S6 attacks on the charge after I kill a unit. And at I6 in a challenge. This is my build until HH: Inferno comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I want to put a nostraman chainglaive on my praetor but I get the feeling that he'll lose everytime to a paragon blade armed one. However this seems to mitigate the cost should he come up against an eternal warrior 3++ sallie praetor or an Iron father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm starting to think the Paragon Blade cost should be built into the cost of a Praetor. surely that would simply make it too good? I mean c'mon 100pts for a guy with 2+ Armour and an AP2 Initiative weapon?? plus whatever Legion perks you take for you individual choice - at least with it being a good additional cost means that even though it's the obligatory choice, you still have to think. I didn't mean make it free. Raise his cost by 20 and give him a paragon blade standard, with the choice of sword, axe, lance, or maul depending on the player's choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Ahh okay - I misunderstood then brother, I still feel that it's better as an option but ohwell haha I've no doubt that the paragon blade will continue to be the go to weapon but there are many other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I'm starting to think the Paragon Blade cost should be built into the cost of a Praetor. surely that would simply make it too good? I mean c'mon 100pts for a guy with 2+ Armour and an AP2 Initiative weapon?? plus whatever Legion perks you take for you individual choice - at least with it being a good additional cost means that even though it's the obligatory choice, you still have to think. I didn't mean make it free. Raise his cost by 20 and give him a paragon blade standard, with the choice of sword, axe, lance, or maul depending on the player's choice. So you're saying make different classes of the Paragon Blade? Not a bad idea, but at the same time it's kinda nice being able to take a weapon that you'd usually avoid because it looks cool but the rules are not ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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