Daemon2027 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 OK so I need a side project like I need a hole in the head (cue family guy cut away gag) but I couldn't resist getting Erebus. Unfortunately he was missing his left arm thumb so while I was giving him a new one I thought I would add a few other little details. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5520/10521144414_e0ca91bd1e.jpg Untitled by Tom.Cates was my first attempt at sculpting fire, fairly happy with it. http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3797/10521121174_9856ed5266.jpg Untitled by Tom.Cates I didn't have any intentions to make any more but I think he needs some friends. Well disciples... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Well, let me say this. I definitely recognized the sculpt as fire before I read anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3505815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Those flames are phenomenal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3505832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I am impress ;) Give him a decent paint job brother I hate the FW scheme Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3505912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Very fire-like, brother. Job's a good 'un, I'd say. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3505921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 My Erebus was missing his left thumb as well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3505924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Nicely done :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 My Erebus was missing his left thumb as well...weird. I told fw out of principle and they said they will get a new one for me. @everyone: Thanks. stuck him on my spraying device (a old bottle with blue tac), wondered down to the garage, he survived the blustering winds, only to fall off the second before i started to spray :| Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 stuck him on my spraying device (a old bottle with blue tac), wondered down to the garage, he survived the blustering winds, only to fall off the second before i started to spray :| I don't know whether to laugh or give you my deepest sympathies... I can just imagine the air turning blue from the effing and blinding. Sorry to hear about the accident, regardless. Did he survive? Was there much damage? :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Luckily only the power pack and top of the Crozius fell off and they can just be re-glued. So hopefully will start to paint latter, dark gods allowing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 So evil... http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2813/10544403633_fcbc82b017.jpg Head of Erebus by Tom.Cates, on Flickr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Really digging this so far, man. Erebus is a great sculpt, and the ever so minor additions only add more depth rather than detract from it. My only recommendation is maybe veer away from how pale he is shown in the FW paint job. I think, given how early in the Heresy this is supposed to be, his skin should still be of a more natural skin tone. That's just my two cents though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Cheers. I agree with you on the flesh, its what i wanted to do I just went a little to pale and realised I had painted a vampire. Will be warming it up a bit, want a more natural pale skin, like he is slowly being effected by the warp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Makes sense to me. To be fair, I think that's always been my issue with those two models. I know they look evil and all... But this just seems so blatantly like a dark sorcerer kind of stereotypical evil. The point of the current Word Bearers stuff is that they aren't supposed to look super chaosy. Even Erebus' armour reflects that, so why does his face look like what it probably will in 10 thousand years? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Makes sense to me. To be fair, I think that's always been my issue with those two models. I know they look evil and all... But this just seems so blatantly like a dark sorcerer kind of stereotypical evil. The point of the current Word Bearers stuff is that they aren't supposed to look super chaosy. Even Erebus' armour reflects that, so why does his face look like what it probably will in 10 thousand years?But he gets horns though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Makes sense to me. To be fair, I think that's always been my issue with those two models. I know they look evil and all... But this just seems so blatantly like a dark sorcerer kind of stereotypical evil. The point of the current Word Bearers stuff is that they aren't supposed to look super chaosy. Even Erebus' armour reflects that, so why does his face look like what it probably will in 10 thousand years?But he gets horns though... When you mess with the bull Chaos, you get the horns Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Really digging this so far, man. Erebus is a great sculpt, and the ever so minor additions only add more depth rather than detract from it. My only recommendation is maybe veer away from how pale he is shown in the FW paint job. I think, given how early in the Heresy this is supposed to be, his skin should still be of a more natural skin tone. That's just my two cents though. The cynic in me would say FW want to sell to the warhammer 40k crowd. anyway slightly warmer face. L9oks less like a vampire, kind of looks odd though. Possibly the left eye effecting the balance which needs to be sorted out. http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3701/10545658373_61bfdb2edb.jpg Untitled by Tom.Cates, on Flickr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 He does sort of look like he got a serious black eye... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Ive fixed it, rehighlighted the eyebrow so the left eye doesnt look higher, and removed some of the blue shading. Ive also redone the iris to make it look more central with the right eye. I will see how it looks tomorrow morning and hopefully get a decent shot in whatever light Surrey is bathed in tomorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Technically wouldn't Erebus have dark skin tones, almost as if Arabic? Colchis was a desert world, I'd assume he'd be more olive at the very least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Well since Arabic skintones are classified as Causcasian, it would mean that if you gave Erebus "Arabic" skintones, you could have as white as Natalie Portman(who is Israeli) to as dark as Faran Tahir(who is from California) or Alexander Siddig(who was born in Sudan). And normally, being from a desert region might normally mean being tan, even if you are pale. But Astartes also have that fangled organ that changes skin tones according to the atmosphere and such. So really, he can be as dark or as light as you want him to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 True, but it would be pretty cool to see him more tan. I think Slaine did a picture of Erebus with definite Middle Eastern influence (or it was Argel Tal, I don't recall). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3506983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 I have looked at it in the morning light and i dont like the face. It doesnt look like skin. So i think I will strip off the paint and start again. i think where i have gone wrong is starting with a pale tone and tried to add warmth (used to painting Raven Guard!). Im thinking i should start warmer, like with the Iron Warrior i painted, and then go lighter. i get what people are saying about an Arabic skin tone, however, even early heresy, i think the Warp will be effecting him. Also he is a scholar, he will be sitting in his sanctuary reading. the thing with middle eastern/ mediterranean skin is thatvit can be quite pale. My wife is Spanish but 15 odd years of England has left her paler then her cousins, and i have met some stunning Saudi ladies with very pale skin. Now women do tend to have different skin from men and there's also make up that pales skin, there is room for a paler middle eastern tone. if/when i paint Logar,though, he will have golden skin like a pharaoh. Same with Argal Tal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282455-architects-of-heresy/#findComment-3507318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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